Let’s see the stats on FEMALE vs. MALE school staff sexually abusing PRESCHOOL children.

Then you’ll see why it’s so risky to choose MEN to have EASY access to ASSAULT your preschool child.

Anonymous wrote:84 pages of comments dedicated mostly to blaming the NCRC & Beauvoir admin/board/teachers, parents who let their children be taught by male teachers, schools that hire male teachers, anyone who met Carroll and thought he was “cold” or “off,” and even Carrolls wife.

I don’t believe for a second any of these popes knew he was a pedophile. You all just need someone to blame because you are scared and mad. It’s why there were witch hunts for gods sake.

Of course, when the FBI fully conducts an investigation into Carrolls crimes, over time, if I am wrong and someone actually knew, then they will face criminal charges. But blaming the community in which he existed for his crimes is so cliche.

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Anonymous wrote:84 pages of comments dedicated mostly to blaming the NCRC & Beauvoir admin/board/teachers, parents who let their children be taught by male teachers, schools that hire male teachers, anyone who met Carroll and thought he was “cold” or “off,” and even Carrolls wife.

I don’t believe for a second any of these popes knew he was a pedophile. You all just need someone to blame because you are scared and mad. It’s why there were witch hunts for gods sake.

Of course, when the FBI fully conducts an investigation into Carrolls crimes, over time, if I am wrong and someone actually knew, then they will face criminal charges. But blaming the community in which he existed for his crimes is so cliche.

The parents that want to eradicate men from basically working with children is crazy as lots of good guys work with kids and I’m sure are disgusted by this story, as well. I agree with you, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.

Those families wisely chose other options.

Also, what does “something was off mean”? Not every single person in the school system is warm. Maybe another parent would think that the overly warm teachers/head of school is “off”.

I know it makes things easier for everyone to think that us as parents missed some very clear signal that JC was a pedophile, but it isn’t true.

There are many people at NCRC and other schools we attended afterwards that I don’t love 100%, many that have something that I can’t exactly pin point. Most are women…. Should I take my kids out of all the schools and homeschool them?

There was NOTHING about JC that could point to him being a pedophile. He never even really seem to like spending time with children. He never looked at them for longer period of time and never really engaged with them other than “good morning Johnny”. He was always around parents.

Should we assume that all people that seem a bit cold and detached from the kids are in fact pedophiles?

84 pages of comments dedicated mostly to blaming the NCRC & Beauvoir admin/board/teachers, parents who let their children be taught by male teachers, schools that hire male teachers, anyone who met Carroll and thought he was “cold” or “off,” and even Carrolls wife.

I don’t believe for a second any of these popes knew he was a pedophile. You all just need someone to blame because you are scared and mad. It’s why there were witch hunts for gods sake.

Of course, when the FBI fully conducts an investigation into Carrolls crimes, over time, if I am wrong and someone actually knew, then they will face criminal charges. But blaming the community in which he existed for his crimes is so cliche.

Can everyone please just stop blaming parents for any of this? These ridiculous rants take up pages of space and distract from the far more important issues. None of this has a thing to do with parents. It’s about a deranged HOS and NCRC.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.

Those families wisely chose other options.

You also seem like you wanted some big warning to parents from people that got a feeling that a creep was doing illegal and pervy things online. Nobody is going to say that because newsflash, nobody knew.
People get weird feelings about people all the time. Most of the time, those people might just be weird, so they can’t warn people because he slipped under the radar and staff and parents just didn’t know.

Will school staff now be proactive and get better educated about recognizing red flags? Will the school offer their families and community with opportunities for education and actively encourage all parents to attend? Probably not. Demand it.

I was one of the PP who got a weird feeling about him being off — a gut feeling - but that feeling made me stay away from him, and not go through meetings / outplacement with hjm for my child —- it did not mean that i thought he was a pedo - i had no idea — i just intuitively stayed away from him. The problem ks be may be a sociopath and there may not have been many warning signa that are concrete. I just followed my gut here.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people lose complete perspective in this area. It’s horrible this happened and everyone can agree on that, including NCRC, but to act like it’s this rampant problem with males in preschools isn’t true.
We have 3000 preschools in metro area, and lots of guys work at these schools. One or two cases, as evil as they were, does not mean that males shouldn’t work with children.
It’s not a common thing here, so get a grip, people.

One or two? You have no idea about what you are talking about.

What do you plan on doing when your child goes to Elementary school and lots of guys work there?

I make sure I chose a school that either never had this problem, or did but manage it perfectly fine and have a reputation to not put things under the rug. And I make sure they have a good policy, no hugs with teachers, nobody alone with a child…

Never that you know of. The school could either have had zero issues, which is what you see, or the school could have covered up every single one to make it invisible and it would appear the same to you. The latter is what my school did. It wasn’t that there was less abuse or no abuse, it was that it was covered up so well every single time.

THIS. Never voice any potential abuse to the school. You’ll REGRET it. Always go straight to the POLICE to report your concerns. They’ll decide how to proceed.

I guess this is why NCRC still hasn't commented on how to navigate the potential that our children are victims?

In all seriousness - why would NCRC parents need this spelled out them? It should be obvious.

The HOS is an extreme pervert.

He had access to your child in some capacity.

A logical next step is to start the difficult process of determining if your child was abused.

This is best handled by a pediatrician or the police, not the school who has little to no interest in abuse being uncovered. I don’t see what their role is.

Ok, self-appointed wise person who has no familiarity with NCRC: Tell us all about that access. Because, as most NCRC parents know, JC was generally in his office doing HOS stuff, while kids were in busy classrooms with multiple teachers. Kids are rarely alone with a single teacher, except some maybe for OT; kids are very, very rarely alone with the HOS.

I almost wonder if moving from classroom teacher to outplacement to HOS were self-protective moves on his part.

Please stop the BS! When a child was late. Mr. Eric usually took the child to the classroom, but if another child was also late, JC would take over. Some classrooms were on the ground floor and safe, while others were on the second floor—or even in the treetop class. Mr. Eric or JC would use the back door and take the stairs where nobody could see them.

You think abuse was happening during 3 minutes on a stairwell that other people can use? I suppose it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.

Agree with PP. The PP before this needs to stop. There are cameras in the entrance that show when you arrive, cameras in the stairwells that make everything visible, and cameras in the classroom that show when the child makes it there. IF (and that’s a big “if”) there is any wrongdoing in the building with actual students, it will come to light.

Until then, hug your children and take a deep breath.

Any cameras in the back stairs? It might, but nobody answered this question.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.

Those families wisely chose other options.

You also seem like you wanted some big warning to parents from people that got a feeling that a creep was doing illegal and pervy things online. Nobody is going to say that because newsflash, nobody knew.
People get weird feelings about people all the time. Most of the time, those people might just be weird, so they can’t warn people because he slipped under the radar and staff and parents just didn’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.

Those families wisely chose other options.

Yes, but what were the families that were still there and didn’t get a feeling either way about him supposed to do?
Or were the families that went elsewhere supposed to hold a sign outside saying, something is off about head of school’. What would of sufficed to you?
‘You said ‘you simply don’t know if anyone suspected anything’ I’m going to put faith in the parents that even though something didn’t feel right in interactions, that nobody thought they were dealing with a pedo, so what do you think the parents should of done?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

You simply don’t know that no one suspected anything. It’s already been stated here by at least two families that something was “off” about him. That’s called a red flag, my friend. No need for them to pinpoint the perp’s crimes.

Those families wisely chose other options.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people lose complete perspective in this area. It’s horrible this happened and everyone can agree on that, including NCRC, but to act like it’s this rampant problem with males in preschools isn’t true.
We have 3000 preschools in metro area, and lots of guys work at these schools. One or two cases, as evil as they were, does not mean that males shouldn’t work with children.
It’s not a common thing here, so get a grip, people.

One or two? You have no idea about what you are talking about.

What do you plan on doing when your child goes to Elementary school and lots of guys work there?

I make sure I chose a school that either never had this problem, or did but manage it perfectly fine and have a reputation to not put things under the rug. And I make sure they have a good policy, no hugs with teachers, nobody alone with a child…

Never that you know of. The school could either have had zero issues, which is what you see, or the school could have covered up every single one to make it invisible and it would appear the same to you. The latter is what my school did. It wasn’t that there was less abuse or no abuse, it was that it was covered up so well every single time.

THIS. Never voice any potential abuse to the school. You’ll REGRET it. Always go straight to the POLICE to report your concerns. They’ll decide how to proceed.

I guess this is why NCRC still hasn't commented on how to navigate the potential that our children are victims?

In all seriousness - why would NCRC parents need this spelled out them? It should be obvious.

The HOS is an extreme pervert.

He had access to your child in some capacity.

A logical next step is to start the difficult process of determining if your child was abused.

This is best handled by a pediatrician or the police, not the school who has little to no interest in abuse being uncovered. I don’t see what their role is.

Ok, self-appointed wise person who has no familiarity with NCRC: Tell us all about that access. Because, as most NCRC parents know, JC was generally in his office doing HOS stuff, while kids were in busy classrooms with multiple teachers. Kids are rarely alone with a single teacher, except some maybe for OT; kids are very, very rarely alone with the HOS.

I almost wonder if moving from classroom teacher to outplacement to HOS were self-protective moves on his part.

Please stop the BS! When a child was late. Mr. Eric usually took the child to the classroom, but if another child was also late, JC would take over. Some classrooms were on the ground floor and safe, while others were on the second floor—or even in the treetop class. Mr. Eric or JC would use the back door and take the stairs where nobody could see them.

You think abuse was happening during 3 minutes on a stairwell that other people can use? I suppose it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.

Agree with PP. The PP before this needs to stop. There are cameras in the entrance that show when you arrive, cameras in the stairwells that make everything visible, and cameras in the classroom that show when the child makes it there. IF (and that’s a big “if”) there is any wrongdoing in the building with actual students, it will come to light.

Until then, hug your children and take a deep breath.

The school allowed a creepy man to mingle among children.

How unhinged are you? Allowing it and just not knowing are two completely different things.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this conversation turning on the parents for not realizing that James Carroll was a sexual predator. They aren’t the ones who committed the crimes. I imagine many of the parents are totally freaking out right now. This is a very scary and unsettling situation.

Except for the parents who knew in their gut there was something amiss. But never spoke of it to others. Never raised concerns.

What did you expect them to do? Call the police for him being unfriendly?

The reality is no one had concerns about this man being predatory towards children or engaging in anything illegal. That’s what makes it so scary. We should blame the parents.

That was my point. People coming here to say they got a bad feeling about him but didn’t do anything but avoid him or walk away are being applauded. But the parents who never had an inkling are getting roasted for not doing anything.

The average person is not going to see it. Especially when interactions are so brief. To paraphrase a favorite movie, no one is going to be taken in by a guy who looks and acts like a pedophile. He’ll be nice. He’ll be attractive. But he’ll be the devil.

Ok fair. Thank you for clarifying. And I definitely agree parents should not be roasted for not having any inkling.

I also feel like schools shouldn’t be roasted either. Like you said, no one suspected. He was generally nice, maybe a bit odd but overall friendly, clean background check, and well liked by the community. He worked at BVR for years then NCRC without any record (as far as we are aware). I’m not sure how school administrator, board members, etc were supposed to know either.

Everyone wants to point blame at someone else because it is easier to same someone messed up. It is much more horrifying to think he was just living amongst us, doing this, and there was no way for anyone to know.

Please shut up. You don’t know that no one suspected anything.

What is wrong with you, telling someone to shut up. She’s right, btw. He went undetected and putting blame on people isn’t the answer.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it ridiculous that the school is still considering which independent inspector to hire? Why they need that much time?

The board gets to choose an inspector?