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Post 10/02/2024 08:42     Subject: Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Because telling the truth is virtually impossible.


Why would you tell the truth if you can always say your are a knucklehead who misspoke?


Using word knucklehead was wrong. i can see all the memes now and before the election. This will stick with Walz for the rest of his political career.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2024 08:42     Subject: Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

Vance's actual policies include:
Nationwide ban in abortion
No gun control
No healthcare
No no-fault divorce (women would have to stay married to abusers)
Grandparents forced to provide free labor in childcare
Fewer govt regulations for things like car seats
No public schools
Books banned nation wide
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2024 08:42     Subject: Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

Vance is slick and a good speaker obviously, but pretty much nothing he was saying yesterday matched up to either his previous statements or the Trump campaign platforms. This was a debate to set him up to run on his own in 4 years or take over for Trump after Trump’s term if he should win election again.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:41     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Lunz hates Trump and has been hard on him all election cycle, so this is pretty damning. It’s also bad for Harris that this is the last debate until the election and everyone is just going to be left with JD Vance dog walking Walz and “I’m friends with school shooters” memes.


Walz is known for misspoking many things, but some of them are really concerning. I don't think the school shooter is as bad as his misrepresentation of his military service.


Confusing Israel with Iran is my biggest concern. In the light what happened yesterday, how he can do it? Jewish votes were outraged yesterday.


On the day when Iran was bombing Israel, right?


Walz response with regard of the middle east policy was very weak. I was expecting him to nail it on such a historical day. 400 bombs was dropped on people of Israel on the date he debated, and he came across as very weak on middle east.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:40     Subject: Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance came off as very likeable.

I thought he came off very slick, his facial expressions just a tad smug, bordering on know-it-all, with a whiff of condescension. It was totally apparent this is a guy who knows how to do PR on the fly. Rewriting Trump's actions in the telling, with such easy-breezy confidence was infuriating. Maybe that's the benefit of Yale law school training.


Usha was heavily involved in preparing him to debate. It is refreshing to hear highly educated people speaking in public.


So I bet you love hearing Obama talk


I LOVE Obama! Vance speech and presentation was at his level. Walz was not.


Yes Vance was really that good.

Poised and articulate like Obama.

I swear I did not expect to come off liking this guy who has been the butt of jokes the last one month.


Agree. And I was pretty confused why Trump would even pick him. But now I see. He was excellent and didn’t come off as slick or smug at all. He came off as poised, articulate, and cool under pressure. As if he could deal with World leaders with ease and not be a push over. Walz did seem like a great person, but all the agreeing with Vance made him look like a pushover. He would do the US no favors in negotiations


Walz is very weak politician. He will be better if he continues serving his state. He is not at the WH level.


Agree that he’s not prepared for WH level. I wouldn’t mind a nice guy who maybe knows how to fix a car as my neighbor but I’m not voting for who may be my neighbor; I’m voting for the WH.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:39     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


He certainly lies better than the others.


Vance does give Obama's vibes and I see why a lot of people don't like him.


A lot of people found Vance more likeable after hearing him speaking, instead of cut of media selected pieces. He is very civil, educated, great family. What not to like?


If ABC declared him a winner...
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Post 10/02/2024 08:39     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Lunz hates Trump and has been hard on him all election cycle, so this is pretty damning. It’s also bad for Harris that this is the last debate until the election and everyone is just going to be left with JD Vance dog walking Walz and “I’m friends with school shooters” memes.


Walz is known for misspoking many things, but some of them are really concerning. I don't think the school shooter is as bad as his misrepresentation of his military service.


Confusing Israel with Iran is my biggest concern. In the light what happened yesterday, how he can do it? Jewish votes were outraged yesterday.


On the day when Iran was bombing Israel, right?
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Post 10/02/2024 08:39     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


He certainly lies better than the others.


Vance does give Obama's vibes and I see why a lot of people don't like him.


A lot of people found Vance more likeable after hearing him speaking, instead of cut of media selected pieces. He is very civil, educated, great family. What not to like?


He's a lying misogynist?
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Post 10/02/2024 08:38     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.


People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.


Vance is not civility. Someone who would pen a novel disparaging a huge segment of Americans while purporting to support them is pure evil.


He was pretty civil and respectful yesterday.


Vance was an obvious winner.


Was Joe the obvious winner in 2020 election?
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Post 10/02/2024 08:38     Subject: Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance came off as very likeable.

I thought he came off very slick, his facial expressions just a tad smug, bordering on know-it-all, with a whiff of condescension. It was totally apparent this is a guy who knows how to do PR on the fly. Rewriting Trump's actions in the telling, with such easy-breezy confidence was infuriating. Maybe that's the benefit of Yale law school training.


Usha was heavily involved in preparing him to debate. It is refreshing to hear highly educated people speaking in public.


So I bet you love hearing Obama talk


I LOVE Obama! Vance speech and presentation was at his level. Walz was not.


Yes Vance was really that good.

Poised and articulate like Obama.

I swear I did not expect to come off liking this guy who has been the butt of jokes the last one month.


Agree. And I was pretty confused why Trump would even pick him. But now I see. He was excellent and didn’t come off as slick or smug at all. He came off as poised, articulate, and cool under pressure. As if he could deal with World leaders with ease and not be a push over. Walz did seem like a great person, but all the agreeing with Vance made him look like a pushover. He would do the US no favors in negotiations


Did you get the feeling at times that he actually can't stand Trump? It was a werid vibe.


YES! I listened to every minute of it and that was one of my conclusions. But the guy is not nice. He played a nice guy on live TV. He's still lying about Haitian immigrants. He's still lying about access to abortion, and gun control. He's just very slick. I don't trust him one bit.

The reality is that Vance, like a lot of Republicans, loathe Trump with every fiber of their beings. But they're such gross opportunists and cowards, they don't get that they need to reject him en masse in order to get out of their own nightmare.



He couldn’t even admit his boss lost the last election.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:38     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Lunz hates Trump and has been hard on him all election cycle, so this is pretty damning. It’s also bad for Harris that this is the last debate until the election and everyone is just going to be left with JD Vance dog walking Walz and “I’m friends with school shooters” memes.


Walz is known for misspoking many things, but some of them are really concerning. I don't think the school shooter is as bad as his misrepresentation of his military service.


Confusing Israel with Iran is my biggest concern. In the light what happened yesterday, how he can do it? Jewish votes were outraged yesterday.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:37     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.


People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.


You’re effing joking, right?


Does this person not realize Trump will be the one in the WH?


Trump is not going to make it in a next four years, it will be either Vance or Harris.


Let me get this math right:

Harris is "less civil" than 2 years of Trump lies/insults + 2 years of Vance sweet-talking lies?

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Post 10/02/2024 08:36     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


He certainly lies better than the others.


Vance does give Obama's vibes and I see why a lot of people don't like him.


A lot of people found Vance more likeable after hearing him speaking, instead of cut of media selected pieces. He is very civil, educated, great family. What not to like?

He's weird. His polish comes from going to an elite university as a DEI applicant.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:35     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

Vance's response about abortion and his "friend" who got an abortion because of an abusive s/o was a slap in the face to the friend, actually.

He wants to have more pro-family policies so women don't feel that they need to get an abortion. I'm sorry, but most "pro-family" policies by conservatives = women being subjugated and told to suck up an abusive relationship.

I grew up in a religious, conservative home, and I saw this play out time and again.

No matter what policies conservatives try to implement, there will always be abusive men, even the religious ones. This is especially insidious because they like to keep it behind closed doors, and religious nutjobs just tell the women to "pray" about it.

Would a man who is being physically abused everyday want to be tied to the abusers in such a profound way? I don't think so. A$$holes, the lot of you.
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Post 10/02/2024 08:35     Subject: Re:Walz vs. Vance: VP Debate Oct 1 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.


He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?


Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.


He certainly lies better than the others.


Vance does give Obama's vibes and I see why a lot of people don't like him.


A lot of people found Vance more likeable after hearing him speaking, instead of cut of media selected pieces. He is very civil, educated, great family. What not to like?