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Anonymous wrote:Chinese researchers now feel the virus can travel as far as 4.5 meters in a constrained environment like a bus.

Fascinating story about how, using closed circuit cameras on a long distance bus, Chinese researchers tracked 7 people who got infected from one carrier riding the bus.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

"The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 can linger in the air for at least 30 minutes and travel up to 4.5 metres – further than the “safe distance” advised by health authorities around the world, according to a study by a team of Chinese government epidemiologists."



I read elsewhere

Seriously how did the person get to the back of the bus without passing by the other people in the bus?

Touching seats along the way I bet....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chinese researchers now feel the virus can travel as far as 4.5 meters in a constrained environment like a bus.

Fascinating story about how, using closed circuit cameras on a long distance bus, Chinese researchers tracked 7 people who got infected from one carrier riding the bus.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

"The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 can linger in the air for at least 30 minutes and travel up to 4.5 metres – further than the “safe distance” advised by health authorities around the world, according to a study by a team of Chinese government epidemiologists."



I read elsewhere

Seriously how did the person get to the back of the bus without passing by the other people in the bus?

Isn't it also possible that the pink person who tested positive immediately already had the virus before getting on the bus?

Touching seats along the way I bet....

Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.

Another yes because if you pass "this flu" onto the wrong person, they die.

But isn't that true with influenza also?

Yes but this is different. Hospitals will be overwhelmed very very quickly. We are wasting time!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chinese researchers now feel the virus can travel as far as 4.5 meters in a constrained environment like a bus.

Fascinating story about how, using closed circuit cameras on a long distance bus, Chinese researchers tracked 7 people who got infected from one carrier riding the bus.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

"The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 can linger in the air for at least 30 minutes and travel up to 4.5 metres – further than the “safe distance” advised by health authorities around the world, according to a study by a team of Chinese government epidemiologists."



I read elsewhere

Seriously how did the person get to the back of the bus without passing by the other people in the bus?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.

Another yes because if you pass "this flu" onto the wrong person, they die.

But isn't that true with influenza also?

No - we have years of data on influenza and have a vaccine ready for multiple strains. SARS-COV2 is novel and it's mutating.

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.

Another yes because if you pass "this flu" onto the wrong person, they die.

But isn't that true with influenza also?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.

Another yes because if you pass "this flu" onto the wrong person, they die.

But isn't that true with influenza also?

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody please crash course me on the coronavirus logic?

So the virus is highly contagious. - mainly through contact. Plane seats? Airports? Probably
But if there are cases in the community
Don’t worry. It is not going to spread. - if you limit contact and handwash/sanitize, probably not
It only spreads in Korea, Iran in Italy. - Most Korean cases were from that sect. Italy can be quite ... um... unclean. Iran? Nuff said
Check what country you are in.

2+2 = potato

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Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.

Another yes because if you pass "this flu" onto the wrong person, they die.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like we started exporting our own cases

Confirmed COVID-19 case in Australia with ties to Aspen community

Canada has 2 cases that came from the US. One from Colorado, one from DC. They also have one case from France and one case from Germany.

He left DC on March 3rd, She left Aspen on March 2.

Canada has 3 more Germany cases today.

One of those cases in Canada was from a person on a flight from DC to Toronto. It was confirmed this morning.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like we started exporting our own cases

Confirmed COVID-19 case in Australia with ties to Aspen community

https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/confirmed-covid-19-case-in-australia-with-ties-to-aspen-community/

Australian visitor in Aspen confirmed to have coronavirus after returning home


A woman visiting Aspen from Australia has been confirmed to have COVID-19, also known as coronavirus, the Colorado Department of Health and Environment said Sunday in an update.

“We are aware of a confirmed COVID-19 case in Australia with ties to the Aspen community. One woman in her 20s who was visiting Aspen returned home to Australia earlier this week, where she tested positive for COVID-19,”

https://www.aspentimes.com/news/australian-visitor-in-aspen-confirmed-to-have-coronavirus-after-returning-home/

No one suspects she picked up virus in airport/airplane rather than contracting it in Aspen?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can tell that people feel very passionately about this issue on both sides of the coin (relax, no risk vs. hunker down as much as possible). I have started taking some steps to prepare and cut back exposure to large crowds, but also haven't cancelled our spring break travel plans. So, I have a question for epidemiologists and others who have spent more time reading up on COVID-19. (And I really want to ask a question, not start a fight.) Should I be viewing this differently than, say, an aggressive flu year when we know that the vaccine was not well matched?

Yes. If you catch it over spring break, there will be enough tests then that you will be voluntarily or involuntarily quarantined. Think about what that would mean.