Anonymous
11/18/2025 14:18
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are there more than 20 people in the entire country who care about this? Lawyers are just bleeding both sides. It's all pointless.
People keep saying this, but Blake hasn’t booked the job since the biggest box office hit of her career, so yeah, this is having an impact.
You are right that people are probably not following the day to day. But it keeps generating headlines which seem problematic for both teams.
This lawsuit was a huge career killer no matter the outcome. Blake wants to be talked about for her outfits and her hair products, and her next movie coming out. And none of those things are happening.
The legal eagles like to get into the nitty gritty here but team Lively has massively effed up the PR angle on this from the start and it's arguable that for a celebrity that is far more important long term than even winning this lawsuit on what would likely be viewed as some barely understandable technicality.
I also don’t think she’s going to win the lawsuit. I really don’t think this is going to court. Blake’s team seemed to be ahead of the game for a long time, but the things that have come out in the last week has me doubting. If you want to sue your employer, you should probably sign a contract of employment. Oops.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 13:28
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Are there more than 20 people in the entire country who care about this? Lawyers are just bleeding both sides. It's all pointless.
People keep saying this, but Blake hasn’t booked the job since the biggest box office hit of her career, so yeah, this is having an impact.
You are right that people are probably not following the day to day. But it keeps generating headlines which seem problematic for both teams.
This lawsuit was a huge career killer no matter the outcome. Blake wants to be talked about for her outfits and her hair products, and her next movie coming out. And none of those things are happening.
The legal eagles like to get into the nitty gritty here but team Lively has massively effed up the PR angle on this from the start and it's arguable that for a celebrity that is far more important long term than even winning this lawsuit on what would likely be viewed as some barely understandable technicality.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 12:34
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Are there more than 20 people in the entire country who care about this? Lawyers are just bleeding both sides. It's all pointless.
People keep saying this, but Blake hasn’t booked the job since the biggest box office hit of her career, so yeah, this is having an impact.
You are right that people are probably not following the day to day. But it keeps generating headlines which seem problematic for both teams.
This lawsuit was a huge career killer no matter the outcome. Blake wants to be talked about for her outfits and her hair products, and her next movie coming out. And none of those things are happening.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 12:16
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Are there more than 20 people in the entire country who care about this? Lawyers are just bleeding both sides. It's all pointless.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 12:00
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Judge is working today. He denied Blake’s motion for sanctions concerning Nathan’s redactions as untimely because it raised new issues about the redactions after fact discovery had closed.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 11:32
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
What? I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't he have always been able to testify whatever he wants? How can Liman force him to testify that something isn't what he says it is?
The judge can prohibit him from testifying on a topic as a sanction.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 11:05
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
Is this framing a sleight of hand like the time the pro-BL poster tried to say Liman was being generous to Charles Babcock, even though that "generosity" entailed completely reversing his ruling in favor of Gottlieb?
Lively requested that Heath not be able to testify at all about the clip on his phone. That was denied. That would indeed have been bad for WF if granted.
The fact that you can’t follow that now it is just a credibility issue for the jury worries me that your reasoning skills aren’t the best. But you are a Blake supporter, so I guess that tracks.
Is my side not clear by the fact that I said "the time the pro-BL poster tried to say..." which is clearly critical of pro-BLers? You really don't sound very bright.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 11:02
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
Is this framing a sleight of hand like the time the pro-BL poster tried to say Liman was being generous to Charles Babcock, even though that "generosity" entailed completely reversing his ruling in favor of Gottlieb?
Lively requested that Heath not be able to testify at all about the clip on his phone. That was denied. That would indeed have been bad for WF if granted.
The fact that you can’t follow that now it is just a credibility issue for the jury worries me that your reasoning skills aren’t the best. But you are a Blake supporter, so I guess that tracks.
I'm a JB supporter, chill. I thought the post was trying to say Liman wasn't ruling anything that bad in favor of JB to absolve the bias he has. Sounds like you don't have the best of reasoning skills and you have poor impulse control if you're jumping to attack people like this.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:51
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
It's also important to note that just because Liman is granting discovery of all the birth footage doesn't mean it will be admissible in court. He's just allowing Lively to get the rest of the footage as part of their fact finding.
I think it's the correct decision because it takes a neutral position on what actually happened, which is what the judge should be doing. The PP saying it's a credibility issue is correct, and the judge CANNOT make a decision on credibility. He can't decide he believes Heath or that he believes Lively as to what was shown.
So now both sides will have all the footage and then they can testify as to what each believe Heath showed Lively. That's the right outcome. Denying Lively access to the other footage based only on Heath's assurance that it's not what he showed her would choosing Heath's version of events over Lively's, which the judge cannot do. But refusing to let Heath testify as to what part of the video was on his phone or what he believes he showed Lively would be choosing Lively's version over Heath's, which he also cannot do.
Only the jury can decided whose version is correct.
I think it's the correct decision because it takes a neutral position on what actually happened, which is what the judge should be doing. The PP saying it's a credibility issue is correct, and the judge CANNOT make a decision on credibility. He can't decide he believes Heath or that he believes Lively as to what was shown.
So now both sides will have all the footage and then they can testify as to what each believe Heath showed Lively. That's the right outcome. Denying Lively access to the other footage based only on Heath's assurance that it's not what he showed her would choosing Heath's version of events over Lively's, which the judge cannot do. But refusing to let Heath testify as to what part of the video was on his phone or what he believes he showed Lively would be choosing Lively's version over Heath's, which he also cannot do.
Only the jury can decided whose version is correct.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:46
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
Is this framing a sleight of hand like the time the pro-BL poster tried to say Liman was being generous to Charles Babcock, even though that "generosity" entailed completely reversing his ruling in favor of Gottlieb?
Lively requested that Heath not be able to testify at all about the clip on his phone. That was denied. That would indeed have been bad for WF if granted.
The fact that you can’t follow that now it is just a credibility issue for the jury worries me that your reasoning skills aren’t the best. But you are a Blake supporter, so I guess that tracks.
But no one said that Judge Liman gave Lively everything she requested, just that he gave all the birth footage.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:44
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
Is this framing a sleight of hand like the time the pro-BL poster tried to say Liman was being generous to Charles Babcock, even though that "generosity" entailed completely reversing his ruling in favor of Gottlieb?
Lively requested that Heath not be able to testify at all about the clip on his phone. That was denied. That would indeed have been bad for WF if granted.
The fact that you can’t follow that now it is just a credibility issue for the jury worries me that your reasoning skills aren’t the best. But you are a Blake supporter, so I guess that tracks.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:44
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
What? I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't he have always been able to testify whatever he wants? How can Liman force him to testify that something isn't what he says it is?
That was one of the sanctions that she requested: Heath failed to turn over the evidence and therefore cannot use that argument. The judge did not grant that part, but did grant her access to the video. The judge can't tell him what to say but he could preclude them from making certain arguments.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:39
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
I can't see the value in the footage. Virtually any birth video will include a moment where a woman's legs are open and she's screaming.
Without the video, Lively can testify to what she saw, as can her assistant (though, interestingly, her testimony did not appear to have been cited in Lively's motion). Heath can deny it and show the family friendly version and claim that's what he showed. Lively can disagree, and her lawyers can get Heath to testify that he does have a longer video which encompasses the actual birth. Heath can say that video was never on his phone, and he's sure that he did not show that part to Lively because that's not the one he shows people. It all goes to the credibility.
With the video, it's basically the same, except Lively can also show a short clip to the jury of Heath giving birth, screaming with her legs open. And Heath can say the same thing, that particular video was never on his phone and he's sure it's not what he showed, and Lively can say she's sure it is. Others in the vicinity, such as Baldoni and the assistant, can also testify, and it all goes to credibility. There is very little value in having the jury see it vs leaving it to their imagination.
Further, no one disputes it was a birthing video as opposed to porn.
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:37
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
Is this framing a sleight of hand like the time the pro-BL poster tried to say Liman was being generous to Charles Babcock, even though that "generosity" entailed completely reversing his ruling in favor of Gottlieb?
Anonymous
11/18/2025 10:35
Subject: Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, Liman is giving Lively all footage of the Heath birth. Gross.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.976.0.pdf
Why is this gross?
That she and the lawyers can go frame by frame through hours of footage until they find her legs splayed amd say that's the shot.
Except that, despite Blake’s request to the contrary, Heath can still testify that he gave Blake the clip on his phone. It was a mixed ruling for her.
What? I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't he have always been able to testify whatever he wants? How can Liman force him to testify that something isn't what he says it is?