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Anonymous wrote:Vance came off as very likeable.

I thought he came off very slick, his facial expressions just a tad smug, bordering on know-it-all, with a whiff of condescension. It was totally apparent this is a guy who knows how to do PR on the fly. Rewriting Trump's actions in the telling, with such easy-breezy confidence was infuriating. Maybe that's the benefit of Yale law school training.

Usha was heavily involved in preparing him to debate. It is refreshing to hear highly educated people speaking in public.

So I bet you love hearing Obama talk

I LOVE Obama! Vance speech and presentation was at his level. Walz was not.

Yes Vance was really that good.

Poised and articulate like Obama.

I swear I did not expect to come off liking this guy who has been the butt of jokes the last one month.

Agree. And I was pretty confused why Trump would even pick him. But now I see. He was excellent and didn’t come off as slick or smug at all. He came off as poised, articulate, and cool under pressure. As if he could deal with World leaders with ease and not be a push over. Walz did seem like a great person, but all the agreeing with Vance made him look like a pushover. He would do the US no favors in negotiations

Did you get the feeling at times that he actually can't stand Trump? It was a werid vibe.

YES! I listened to every minute of it and that was one of my conclusions. But the guy is not nice. He played a nice guy on live TV. He's still lying about Haitian immigrants. He's still lying about access to abortion, and gun control. He's just very slick. I don't trust him one bit.

The reality is that Vance, like a lot of Republicans, loathe Trump with every fiber of their beings. But they're such gross opportunists and cowards, they don't get that they need to reject him en masse in order to get out of their own nightmare.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.

People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.

You’re effing joking, right?

Does this person not realize Trump will be the one in the WH?

Trump is not going to make it in a next four years, it will be either Vance or Harris.

If Trump wins I actually foresee Trump stepping down and letting Vance become President - not sure who would then become VP.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.

People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.

You’re effing joking, right?

Vance reminded me of Aaron Burr. Someone who has no principles and will say anything to get ahead. He was smooth as a Yale Law trained lawyer should be. However, he consistently gave off an "ick" feeling when talking. Nothing appeared genuine. Oh, and he never provided any details on his policies other than "we should do better", "let law enforcement decide", "let Israel decide", etc. Those are non-answer, weasel words which make it appear like you're responding when you're really not.

Yup, he’s slimy and inexperienced.

Anonymous wrote:Oh noes...

ABC’s Linsey Davis likens Tim Walz’s debate performance with Biden’s debate performance. That’s how bad it was. Wow!

Liberals are not helping Kamala's campaign.

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ABC’s Linsey Davis likens Tim Walz’s debate performance with Biden’s debate performance. That’s how bad it was. Wow!

Too bad independent voters saw it differently

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Because telling the truth is virtually impossible.

Why would you tell the truth if you can always say your are a knucklehead who misspoke?

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.

People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.

You’re effing joking, right?

Does this person not realize Trump will be the one in the WH?

Trump is not going to make it in a next four years, it will be either Vance or Harris.

Oh noes...

ABC’s Linsey Davis likens Tim Walz’s debate performance with Biden’s debate performance. That’s how bad it was. Wow!

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone wondering why the debate moderators didn’t talk about:

-the military service records of either candidate?

-the two assassination attempts on Trump’s life?

Why were those topics not covered?

I am more concerned that they didn't raise Ukraine and Vance's affinity to Russia versus Walz patriotic support of democracy at home and abroad.

+1 who cares about their military record? If neither Harris nor Trump even served (with Trump getting out of a draft with his fake bone spurs), why should we really care about the VP's military record?

The current state of foreign affairs is much more important, especially Russia's warmongering, and the MAGA support of Putin.

Because telling the truth is virtually impossible.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance came off as very likeable.

I thought he came off very slick, his facial expressions just a tad smug, bordering on know-it-all, with a whiff of condescension. It was totally apparent this is a guy who knows how to do PR on the fly. Rewriting Trump's actions in the telling, with such easy-breezy confidence was infuriating. Maybe that's the benefit of Yale law school training.

Usha was heavily involved in preparing him to debate. It is refreshing to hear highly educated people speaking in public.

So I bet you love hearing Obama talk

I LOVE Obama! Vance speech and presentation was at his level. Walz was not.

Yes Vance was really that good.

Poised and articulate like Obama.

I swear I did not expect to come off liking this guy who has been the butt of jokes the last one month.

Agree. And I was pretty confused why Trump would even pick him. But now I see. He was excellent and didn’t come off as slick or smug at all. He came off as poised, articulate, and cool under pressure. As if he could deal with World leaders with ease and not be a push over. Walz did seem like a great person, but all the agreeing with Vance made him look like a pushover. He would do the US no favors in negotiations

He literally lied on just about every response. How is that presidential?

Well Trump WAS president and lied all of the time.

How that is not an issue for folks I will never know...how do we communicate with allies?

Interesting, all of the "snap polls" favor Walz by about the same margins. Here is another:

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Anonymous wrote:Vance came off as very likeable.

I thought he came off very slick, his facial expressions just a tad smug, bordering on know-it-all, with a whiff of condescension. It was totally apparent this is a guy who knows how to do PR on the fly. Rewriting Trump's actions in the telling, with such easy-breezy confidence was infuriating. Maybe that's the benefit of Yale law school training.

Usha was heavily involved in preparing him to debate. It is refreshing to hear highly educated people speaking in public.

So I bet you love hearing Obama talk

I LOVE Obama! Vance speech and presentation was at his level. Walz was not.

Yes Vance was really that good.

Poised and articulate like Obama.

I swear I did not expect to come off liking this guy who has been the butt of jokes the last one month.

Agree. And I was pretty confused why Trump would even pick him. But now I see. He was excellent and didn’t come off as slick or smug at all. He came off as poised, articulate, and cool under pressure. As if he could deal with World leaders with ease and not be a push over. Walz did seem like a great person, but all the agreeing with Vance made him look like a pushover. He would do the US no favors in negotiations

He literally lied on just about every response. How is that presidential?

Sadly, “literally lying on just about every response” is a key character strength in Trump’s view. That’s likely Trump’s key vetting question a person willing to lie for him, especially a VP.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance is unflappable, articulate, quick thinking and will be a formidable debate opponent. I’m not voting his ticket but this is my honest opinion. Out of the candidates on both tickets he is the strongest debater.

He is also much younger than ol’ man Walz. I just wonder if Vance might hold back due to respect for someone so much older than himself?

Vance was just like Obama: smooth, polished and very well put together in his appearance and in his thoughts. Out of four of them, he is the most presidential unfortunately.

Smooth speaking matters not at all when you lie.

People were ready to overlook many of Obama's lies just to get him in the office. I voted for him twice and will gladly vote for Vance just to have civility back in the WH.

Vance is not civility. Someone who would pen a novel disparaging a huge segment of Americans while purporting to support them is pure evil.

He was pretty civil and respectful yesterday.

Vance was an obvious winner.