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Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

None. Of. This. Matters.

All of this will be decided by legislatures and women have no rights to contest the most restrictive laws. Total bans. Just own what you’ve done.

+1

You get to kill (poor) women like you always wanted and condemn millions more to worse poverty! Own your “win”!

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Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

“A lot”? Bullsh1t.

Forced birthers just don’t live in reality.

Someone on another thread said that PP sounds like a McConnell intern and it would account for why they sound spring green and ignorant as hell.

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Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

You really don’t understand anything at all, do you? Jesus when you get your sexual education and anatomy from Life News, you’re getting propaganda. No, the organs are not all there and looking like they do in an adult. And they’re tiny - the kidneys in a 12 week fetus are 1 cm, scanned through inches of flesh and tissue.

And for most healthy pregnancies, you get an internal scan confirming the pregnancy at your initial OB appointment around 6-8 weeks IIRC, then the 20 week scan. They’re not doing them every time.

And since you sound like you’re about 14, get ready for a real bomb - sometimes they find problems, serious problems, later on. Ultrasound is a magic wand is some senses but it’s not infallible. Water retention, fat, placental placement, how the fetus is lying in the uterus, a ton of other things I as a lay person doesn’t know all affect legibility of a scan.

Abortion patients are disproportionately poor. Unfortunately, that means BIPOC are going to be represented at higher rates as abortion patients, since they are represented at higher rates for poverty, too.

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Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

Poor women in the south are voting with rich women in the south to choose life!

Take a seat white savior.

I love how you assume that all women seeking abortions are women of color.

Most were Black or Hispanic.

DP. It looks like women identified as non-Hispanic White were pretty well represented, though, as about a third of all abortions.

Among the 30 areas that reported race by ethnicity data for 2019, non-Hispanic White women and non-Hispanic Black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (33.4% and 38.4%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (21.0% and 7.2%, respectively).

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm

Yes. And about 60% of women in our country are white, non Hispanic. Black and Hispanic women comprise about 30%.

Yep. And of those women getting abortions, about a third are White.

Anonymous wrote:Loving v. Virginia is based on the same legal foundation of constitutional right to privacy as every other thing Clarence Thomas targeted, but he left that one out. Why?

Because Loving v. Virginia is not based on the right to privacy but rather on the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment which states that "nor shall any State ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

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Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

None. Of. This. Matters.

All of this will be decided by legislatures and women have no rights to contest the most restrictive laws. Total bans. Just own what you’ve done.

In fact, since states use popular vote, you have MORE power in each state to get rid of the restrictive laws by tossing out those enforcing them.

What you are advocating is the antithesis of American constitutional democracy. Not all of us are stupid enough to fall for your shit. What you’re advocating is the kind of “freedom” women under the Taliban enjoy.

+1 I wish they understood that we see them for the regressive a holes that they are. No one is buying their nice guy bull anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

Poor women in the south are voting with rich women in the south to choose life!

Take a seat white savior.

I love how you assume that all women seeking abortions are women of color.

Most were Black or Hispanic.

DP. It looks like women identified as non-Hispanic White were pretty well represented, though, as about a third of all abortions.

Among the 30 areas that reported race by ethnicity data for 2019, non-Hispanic White women and non-Hispanic Black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (33.4% and 38.4%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (21.0% and 7.2%, respectively).

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm

Yes. And about 60% of women in our country are white, non Hispanic. Black and Hispanic women comprise about 30%.

Is divorce deeply rooted in history? I can’t see how it’s not ion the chopping block.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

You can’t honestly believe this. I can’t imagine being that ignorant of science. I’m deeply embarrassed for you.

The PP is almost childlike in their beliefs. It’s sad.

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Anonymous wrote:It's about power. The power to control. It's an attack on individualism. The decision takes power from individual people and gives it to legislatures. It's an attack on the fundamental idea of America. The underlying change is to the meaning of the word people which now exclusively means people's representatives. It's an attack on limited government.

The fundamental idea of America is not individuals with unlimited rights - it's a social contract where individuals balance their rights with those of others through an elected government.

The fundamental idea is that power rests inherently with the people not the government. The people grant government limited powers. Not governments granting people limited rights.

Correct, which is why abortion going back to the states is the right decision. It was never the court’s power. Now people in those red states can determine how important abortion is to them in the context of other issues.

What you are trying to say is that now some people in red states can determine that women in their states do not get to make decisions about their bodies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

You can’t honestly believe this. I can’t imagine being that ignorant of science. I’m deeply embarrassed for you.

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Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

None. Of. This. Matters.

All of this will be decided by legislatures and women have no rights to contest the most restrictive laws. Total bans. Just own what you’ve done.

In fact, since states use popular vote, you have MORE power in each state to get rid of the restrictive laws by tossing out those enforcing them.

FFS. Do you think slavery should be decided on by the whim of voters? What about your right as a woman to drive, should that be put to voters? Should voters get to decide if you get an organ donation?

How about the freedom to work outside the home or attend school? None of that is rooted in history for women. Quite new.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

None. Of. This. Matters.

All of this will be decided by legislatures and women have no rights to contest the most restrictive laws. Total bans. Just own what you’ve done.

In fact, since states use popular vote, you have MORE power in each state to get rid of the restrictive laws by tossing out those enforcing them.

FFS. Do you think slavery should be decided on by the whim of voters? What about your right as a woman to drive, should that be put to voters? Should voters get to decide if you get an organ donation?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Let’s reflect on the fact that all that happened is power is returned to the people through their states!

Different strokes for different folks.

You can have abortion on demand in California or Massachusetts. We can respectfully restrict it here in the Deep South.

We all win.

Right, because poor women in the south can easily pop over to California. They’ll just take the shifts off work, book the plane ticket for them and their children, and pay for a hotel room. Then they’ll pay for the procedure in cash. Right? All so simple! And what about women who find out that their fetus is incompatible with life at the 20 week anatomy scan? They should put their own health and their sanity on the back burner so you can pretend you’re saving someone? Your feelings do not supersede anyone else’s right to obtain medical care. Period.

We now have 4D scans that are used for glamour photos of the baby. Our technology has far surpassed the 20 week scan, to the point where fetal surgery can be done to correct a lot of defects in utero.

I had a baby last year. The doctor specifically told me that they were looking for defects that could not be fixed. You can’t do a thing for a child who has missing or malformed organs. There are many women who find out at the anatomy scan that their child will not survive, no matter the medical intervention. I know some of them. They don’t deserve to be put through legal hell in what is certainly the worst week of their life. You are a terrible person.

I understand BUT they can do these scans much earlier now. They wait until 20 weeks for convenience. By 12 weeks, all organs are already there. There are genetic tests that can be done as early as 6-8 weeks. The states will further refine the laws.

This is good for Democrats as states use the popular vote, not electoral. So if you don’t like a governor, etc, you can vote them out via the popular vote. That’s why Virginia is usually decided by Fairfax and Loudoun.

None. Of. This. Matters.

All of this will be decided by legislatures and women have no rights to contest the most restrictive laws. Total bans. Just own what you’ve done.

In fact, since states use popular vote, you have MORE power in each state to get rid of the restrictive laws by tossing out those enforcing them.

How’s that working out in South Dakota, Louisiana, and Kentucky?

Immediate bans on abortion.