Anonymous
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:27
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Not a single one of the things you attributed to DeSantis is anything he has done. Not one.
And, as for turning the state blue.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
The first part of the post is lunacy, but the second is part is true for now. FL is firmly red; the GOP strategy of putting republicans in local office that trickle up has worked. For the first time, there are actually more registered republicans than dems in FL. Given turnout is always better for republicans, FL is a lost cause for 2024.
Not necessarily. We might have both abortion rights AND weed legalization on the ballot in 2024. The only reason Florida is so deeply red now is because Dems haven't been coming out to vote - it's a purple state, with a really dispirited Dem constituency. Weed and abortion rights can do a lot to GOTV, I think.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:21
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Not a single one of the things you attributed to DeSantis is anything he has done. Not one.
And, as for turning the state blue.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
The first part of the post is lunacy, but the second is part is true for now. FL is firmly red; the GOP strategy of putting republicans in local office that trickle up has worked. For the first time, there are actually more registered republicans than dems in FL. Given turnout is always better for republicans, FL is a lost cause for 2024.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 09:00
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Not a single one of the things you attributed to DeSantis is anything he has done. Not one.
And, as for turning the state blue.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
So you’re saying he hasn’t accomplished anything as governor? Ok. That’s quite an election campaign he’s got going then.
Nonetheless those things happened and they’re not the reason California transplants like where they now reside.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 08:58
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Not a single one of the things you attributed to DeSantis is anything he has done. Not one.
And, as for turning the state blue.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
DP, literally every single one of those things has happened under his leadership. Keep your head in the sand.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 08:56
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Disney fired Victorio Alonso, who likely is responsible for the company losing control of Reedy Creek.
The company hasn’t lost control of Reedy Creek, though. That’s what DeSantis is mad about.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 01:13
Subject: DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Disney fired Victorio Alonso, who likely is responsible for the company losing control of Reedy Creek.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 15:15
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Not a single one of the things you attributed to DeSantis is anything he has done. Not one.
And, as for turning the state blue.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 15:05
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Meh. Relocating is a PITA. Where I currently live is not my dream place. But I'd be reluctant to leave, too, because I've set roots down here.
If you're suggesting that they love Florida because of Ronnie's Don't Say Gay Bill, banning of books, abortion bans, dismantling of academic freedom, cruelty toward immigrants, and attacks on their employer, well I've got a bridge to sell you. And frankly, mostly of those transplants are more likely to vote against that kind of sh!t, so better that they stay and turn the state blue.
Anonymous
05/21/2023 14:55
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
It's not an opinion. He is stating what he has experienced as a realtor.... that people who were initially reluctant to relocate to Orlando from California now don't want to leave. It is contrary to what people on this board claim, so his experience is worthless in their book.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/20/2023 19:11
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like other states (e.g., TX, CO, OK) in the middle of America would get on the Disney bandwagon quickly.
Specifically, it would be like when cities try to woo NFL teams to move.
A nice new park in central TX could attract many people who cannot make it to CA or FL as often as they like. I know people will start to scream about TX politics; however, Austin and San Antonio are great places, and they should be able to work something out with the Mouse.
Texas just too crazy to a whole new level
"The sweeping legislation — authored by state Rep. Dustin Burrows, a Lubbock Republican — would bar cities and counties from issuing local ordinances that go further than what’s already allowed under broad sections of state law, including labor, agriculture, natural resources and finance.
...
The bill is so broadly written that no one knows exactly how much it would ultimately limit local governments’ power to make rules. Opponents say the bill’s reach would likely be determined in the courts as businesses contest ordinances they dislike, one at a time. Meanwhile, they fear, local leaders would be powerless to respond to problems in their backyard — and left at the mercy of an uncaring Republican-dominated Legislature. Democrats predicted that lawmakers would be back in two years to try to rein in unintended consequences of the law."
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/15/texas-legislature-local-control/
There is a private enforcement mechanism that provides to attorneys fees.
+1 The problem with blue cities in a red state is that the city still has to abide by state laws, and of course, same applies to red city in blue state.
Except there are no red cities in blue states. I’m not sure if there are any red cities anywhere, at least not big cities.
The DeSantis-endorsed Republican candidate running for mayor of Jacksonville just lost in a huge upset. That was by far the biggest city run by a Republican. Now I think Omaha is the biggest and it’s not very big.
Nope. Ft. Worth, Oklahoma City, Fresno CA are bigger.
Yes to Fresno but the other two have weak city managers, not strong mayors. Different system.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/20/2023 17:14
Subject: Re:DeSantis and FL moving to hammer Disney
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like other states (e.g., TX, CO, OK) in the middle of America would get on the Disney bandwagon quickly.
Specifically, it would be like when cities try to woo NFL teams to move.
A nice new park in central TX could attract many people who cannot make it to CA or FL as often as they like. I know people will start to scream about TX politics; however, Austin and San Antonio are great places, and they should be able to work something out with the Mouse.
Texas just too crazy to a whole new level
"The sweeping legislation — authored by state Rep. Dustin Burrows, a Lubbock Republican — would bar cities and counties from issuing local ordinances that go further than what’s already allowed under broad sections of state law, including labor, agriculture, natural resources and finance.
...
The bill is so broadly written that no one knows exactly how much it would ultimately limit local governments’ power to make rules. Opponents say the bill’s reach would likely be determined in the courts as businesses contest ordinances they dislike, one at a time. Meanwhile, they fear, local leaders would be powerless to respond to problems in their backyard — and left at the mercy of an uncaring Republican-dominated Legislature. Democrats predicted that lawmakers would be back in two years to try to rein in unintended consequences of the law."
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/15/texas-legislature-local-control/
There is a private enforcement mechanism that provides to attorneys fees.
+1 The problem with blue cities in a red state is that the city still has to abide by state laws, and of course, same applies to red city in blue state.
Except there are no red cities in blue states. I’m not sure if there are any red cities anywhere, at least not big cities.
The DeSantis-endorsed Republican candidate running for mayor of Jacksonville just lost in a huge upset. That was by far the biggest city run by a Republican. Now I think Omaha is the biggest and it’s not very big.
Nope. Ft. Worth, Oklahoma City, Fresno CA are bigger.