Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 15:18     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:A classic sign of an abuse victim is taking FULL accountability for an entire argument such as what Gaby did in the police video.

Notice how she seemed apologetic for her part in the “scuffle” and blamed herself for why Brian got angry??
She was the one clearly affected and distraught, he was acting like none of it was any big deal to him.
He showed no signs of being negatively affected by the situation. At all.

So the fact that these cops were calling him the victim is truly laughable.


I agree. She said she had OCD because she was spending a long time that day making sure her photos were perfect in the coffee shop. Brian was getting agitated and wanted to go and was making her feel like she could not do it anyway. That is what she said. She said she had anxiety. She was truthful of how she felt about herself but was minimizing his behavior. He probably started a fight and she reacted to him out of fear when he became more volatile and threatened to leave her. He got hit in the head with the cellphone because she was trying to keep him from taking her van. She was trying to get into her own van. She was probably crying hysterically at that point and he told her to calm down when he was the agitator. Her crying was a reaction to his behavior. Everything escalated when the cops were involved and her crying increased. Many women cry a lot when stressed by a situation.

What was frustrating was to see her crying and so defeated and the cops put in their report she was “manic”. She was not manic because she was crying! BL was a manipulator and a liar. So sad for Gabby and her family.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 15:17     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:2 updates:

Tillman Center Wal-Mart Alabama in progress
Homicide detectives taped off area behind Wal-Mart dumpster. Black backpack. No news about BL there. May be updating as I type this.

Allegedly 2 witnesses called 911 on the day their altercation at Moonflower. The bodycam officers allegedly only had the transcript of 1 witness, the one of GP slapping/scratched BL.

2nd witness call states BL hitting GP
EXCLUSIVE: 911 caller in Gabby Petito 'incident' says fiancé seen hitting, 'slapping' her weeks before disappearance https://fxn.ws/3lFAOi3




Previous P again

Part of witness 2 transcript
The 911 caller who reported a "domestic dispute" between Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito in Moab, Utah, on Aug. 12 was heard telling a dispatcher that "the gentleman was slapping the girl" and hitting her, Fox News has confirmed Monday after exclusively obtaining the audio of the call.

"He was slapping her?" the dispatcher was heard asking.

"Yes, and then they stopped. They ran up and down the sidewalk. He proceeded to hit her, hopped in the car and they drove off," the caller added.



Bumping this one more time since there's so much banter in between. 14:38 poster prompted me to bump. READ ABOVE It is confirmed by a 2nd witness call to 911 that BL slapped and hit GP at Moonflower on 8/12 Why the officers in bodycam vid didn't have that info or disregarded that info is unknown.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 15:08     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

A smart guy with spy experience vs. ... Brian Laundrie, loser from Florida


😂


Never underestimate the resourcefulness of a desperate Florida Man fueled by stupidity.


I don't know why anyone is calling this guy stupid. He got rid of her in a place they had no instagram posts about, drove home, didn't say a word to the cops, and got out of dodge. He seems like a total scumbag, but not dumb.

He only got out of dodge because his parents are criminals willing to lie and cover for him. If he had been smart he wouldn’t have come home at all.


Why not? Wandering around in the middle of the US wouldn’t get him anywhere. Smart is getting funds and getting out of the country. Plus moving the van across statelines confused the LEOs. They had search parties in Florida and Utah initially.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 15:04     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

A smart guy with spy experience vs. ... Brian Laundrie, loser from Florida


😂


Never underestimate the resourcefulness of a desperate Florida Man fueled by stupidity.


I don't know why anyone is calling this guy stupid. He got rid of her in a place they had no instagram posts about, drove home, didn't say a word to the cops, and got out of dodge. He seems like a total scumbag, but not dumb.

He only got out of dodge because his parents are criminals willing to lie and cover for him. If he had been smart he wouldn’t have come home at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 15:01     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
A classic sign of an abuse victim is taking FULL accountability for an entire argument such as what Gaby did in the police video.

Notice how she seemed apologetic for her part in the “scuffle” and blamed herself for why Brian got angry??
She was the one clearly affected and distraught, he was acting like none of it was any big deal to him.
He showed no signs of being negatively affected by the situation. At all.

So the fact that these cops were calling him the victim is truly laughable.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:52     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Apparently there are now (currently unconfirmed) internet reports that Brian accidentally went live on Instagram this morning for a few seconds, from a boat. Reportedly happened 20 minutes before the FBI showed up at his parents' house.


Welp I mentioned all he had to do was get on a boat to Cubs and be gone. People said - nooo he won’t do that! I’m curious what the surroundings were - open ocean or swampland?


Boat to Cuba is highly unlikely.

But hopefully someone is looking at video footage from both Sarasota and Punta Gorda airports which are both rather small, might have been clueless (at the time) as to a rather non-descript passenger heading to points elsewhere.



I'm PP who posted about the unconfirmed reports that he accidentally went live on Insta from a boat. It is unconfirmed and this situation is very fluid, so who knows if those reports are true.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:41     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Apparently there are now (currently unconfirmed) internet reports that Brian accidentally went live on Instagram this morning for a few seconds, from a boat. Reportedly happened 20 minutes before the FBI showed up at his parents' house.


Welp I mentioned all he had to do was get on a boat to Cubs and be gone. People said - nooo he won’t do that! I’m curious what the surroundings were - open ocean or swampland?


Boat to Cuba is highly unlikely.

But hopefully someone is looking at video footage from both Sarasota and Punta Gorda airports which are both rather small, might have been clueless (at the time) as to a rather non-descript passenger heading to points elsewhere.

Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:39     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have we definitively established he was in FL or with his parents? He could e dropped off the van, had his parents pick it up and been on the run from there. Nothing his parents say is credible IMO.

Agreed. Did the police actually ever talk to him? What if he never came home? He could have called the parents, and they flew out to pick up the van and help him escape. Then they brought the van back to FL.


I want to know this too. Was he actually seen since the time the van showed up in FL? I also want to know what the heck was so important that he flew round trip to help his dad move from storage in August. He flew home on Aug 17, the day after the 2 women were murdered in Utah, near where Brian and Gabby stayed. I'm still wondering if he was involved in their murders at all. So many questions! I really hope he and his family eventually give answers - so tragic!
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:38     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:After watching the body cam, I wonder if there's any system that could have set Gabby up with immediate crisis counseling, even though she was cited as the aggressor? It was hard to see them send off a young woman who had just been bawling for an hour and was clearly shaky and uncomfortable driving alone to spend a night in a van in the desert. She clearly needed more help than to be told a cheap place to get a shower. I think the officers generally handled everything well, but social services are a major gap in the system.

I also can't help but wonder if this never would have happened if they didn't have the additional stress of trying to live a public Instagram/YouTube/blogosphere perfect life on top of the inherent stress of spending weeks or months with one other person in a tiny space. G said B didn't support her blog or believe she could do it, which, honestly, is a fair concern. Most parents would express similar doubts if their child's aspiration was to be a lifestyle blogger. He may have gaslit her and baited her (possible); he could have had malicious intent all along (less likely); or he could have just snapped from the stress (probable), maybe once or twice, or maybe repeatedly until it became a sick pattern. Then panicked.

But would that have happened without all the social media stuff?


Way to blame the victim. What about Brian having the guts to stop the trip if he thought her plan wasn't viable. (By that I mean getting an Uber, not killing her.) She was not causing him stress. His stress was his thoughts about it. He was also classically abusive. One of her friends reported to the media that he took her ID so she couldn't go out with her. I'm certain his parents knew about the abuse; I mean they lived with them. They turned a blind eye and then defiantly helped him escape. These kinds of posts are sanctioning abusive behavior. That you have doubts about what she wanted to do means nothing.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:38     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After viewing the police video from mid-August of this young couple, I find it alarming that the cops allowed a sobbing, distraught young woman drive off in a vehicle in which she admitted she did not feel comfortable driving drive off alone with no destination in site. She had very little money, no water and did not know a soul anywhere near the area. They let her drive off in the early evening when she was so scared and had no idea where she would spend the night. She was the perfect prey for an unscrupulous predator. Meanwhile they drove the Male to a paid for hotel, even walked him up to the front desk and made sure everything was set up. He got to sleep in a warm bed, have a hot shower and got unlimited color television 📺 for the next twelve hours.

I am not accusing these cops of Gabrielle’s death. That would be so unfair.
What I am accusing them of is lousy handling of a potential DV situation.
Why label her the aggressor when she was the one crying and emotional? Why label the victim the individual who is cracking jokes and 🤜🏽🤛🏽ing the other officer’s while clearly lying to them about not owning a phone??!
Why abandon the Female while making sure the Male is properly taken care of for the evening?

The officer mentioned they cannot treat anyone different because of gender, but I disagree 1000%.
Letting a Female drive off alone with no one or nowhere to go is placing her at a much higher risk than doing it for a Male. Watching the police cam video I see such an obvious injustice my blood boils.

And that is before adding the context that is available now. 🤨


Umm she was fine though. She died 13 days later but not because she drove off alone but because she went right back to her abuser.


Why on earth did she go back to that murderer?


Do you know anything about domestic violence? Before he probably ever hit her for the first time he had probably broken her down til she felt completely worthless and didn’t think she deserved anything more than to be hit by him. That’s how it works. It’s psychological first and then the physical control comes so by the time that happens the victim is barely in their right mind and often genuinely has been convinced they deserved it. Did you see the video of her with the cops? You can see this - she says constantly how messed up she is, how annoying, anxious, how he doesn’t believe she can do anything
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:36     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:2 updates:

Tillman Center Wal-Mart Alabama in progress
Homicide detectives taped off area behind Wal-Mart dumpster. Black backpack. No news about BL there. May be updating as I type this.

Allegedly 2 witnesses called 911 on the day their altercation at Moonflower. The bodycam officers allegedly only had the transcript of 1 witness, the one of GP slapping/scratched BL.

2nd witness call states BL hitting GP
EXCLUSIVE: 911 caller in Gabby Petito 'incident' says fiancé seen hitting, 'slapping' her weeks before disappearance https://fxn.ws/3lFAOi3


Previous P again

Part of witness 2 transcript
The 911 caller who reported a "domestic dispute" between Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito in Moab, Utah, on Aug. 12 was heard telling a dispatcher that "the gentleman was slapping the girl" and hitting her, Fox News has confirmed Monday after exclusively obtaining the audio of the call.

"He was slapping her?" the dispatcher was heard asking.

"Yes, and then they stopped. They ran up and down the sidewalk. He proceeded to hit her, hopped in the car and they drove off," the caller added.



Man I had this thought when watching the video of them with police, it didn’t make any sense to me if it happened the way she was saying that two people would call the police. People generally try to mind their own business with DV. It has to be pretty bad for someone to call and I thought it was really suspicious that folks would have called if they were having a fight the way they described. This makes wayyy more sense. And is so so sad.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:34     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After viewing the police video from mid-August of this young couple, I find it alarming that the cops allowed a sobbing, distraught young woman drive off in a vehicle in which she admitted she did not feel comfortable driving drive off alone with no destination in site. She had very little money, no water and did not know a soul anywhere near the area. They let her drive off in the early evening when she was so scared and had no idea where she would spend the night. She was the perfect prey for an unscrupulous predator. Meanwhile they drove the Male to a paid for hotel, even walked him up to the front desk and made sure everything was set up. He got to sleep in a warm bed, have a hot shower and got unlimited color television 📺 for the next twelve hours.

I am not accusing these cops of Gabrielle’s death. That would be so unfair.
What I am accusing them of is lousy handling of a potential DV situation.
Why label her the aggressor when she was the one crying and emotional? Why label the victim the individual who is cracking jokes and 🤜🏽🤛🏽ing the other officer’s while clearly lying to them about not owning a phone??!
Why abandon the Female while making sure the Male is properly taken care of for the evening?

The officer mentioned they cannot treat anyone different because of gender, but I disagree 1000%.
Letting a Female drive off alone with no one or nowhere to go is placing her at a much higher risk than doing it for a Male. Watching the police cam video I see such an obvious injustice my blood boils.

And that is before adding the context that is available now. 🤨


Umm she was fine though. She died 13 days later but not because she drove off alone but because she went right back to her abuser.


Why on earth did she go back to that murderer?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:33     Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and call me crazy, but I feel I could see a circle shape above the white/straps. So could've been an alive gabby with bunch of crap on her lap. Or not alive

You guys are psycho, it looks like a rolled up sleeping bag.


You are right about straps, I forgot sleeping bags have those two straps. They must've put a pillow in roll with bag. But, must be 2 bags, or something under 1 bag, because it's so tall.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:32     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:2 updates:

Tillman Center Wal-Mart Alabama in progress
Homicide detectives taped off area behind Wal-Mart dumpster. Black backpack. No news about BL there. May be updating as I type this.

Allegedly 2 witnesses called 911 on the day their altercation at Moonflower took. The bodycam officers allegedly only had the transcript of 1 witness, the one of GP slapping/scratched BL.

2nd witness call states BL hitting GP
EXCLUSIVE: 911 caller in Gabby Petito 'incident' says fiancé seen hitting, 'slapping' her weeks before disappearance https://fxn.ws/3lFAOi3



Dead body at the Alabama Walmart. Interesting that people had reported seeing a man fit BL’s description earlier today


https://www.fox10tv.com/news/mobile_county/mpd-dead-body-found-near-walmart-dumpster/article_cc41531c-1a3e-11ec-aeb9-371901606f34.html
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2021 14:32     Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:2 updates:

Tillman Center Wal-Mart Alabama in progress
Homicide detectives taped off area behind Wal-Mart dumpster. Black backpack. No news about BL there. May be updating as I type this.

Allegedly 2 witnesses called 911 on the day their altercation at Moonflower. The bodycam officers allegedly only had the transcript of 1 witness, the one of GP slapping/scratched BL.

2nd witness call states BL hitting GP
EXCLUSIVE: 911 caller in Gabby Petito 'incident' says fiancé seen hitting, 'slapping' her weeks before disappearance https://fxn.ws/3lFAOi3


Previous P again

Part of witness 2 transcript
The 911 caller who reported a "domestic dispute" between Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito in Moab, Utah, on Aug. 12 was heard telling a dispatcher that "the gentleman was slapping the girl" and hitting her, Fox News has confirmed Monday after exclusively obtaining the audio of the call.

"He was slapping her?" the dispatcher was heard asking.

"Yes, and then they stopped. They ran up and down the sidewalk. He proceeded to hit her, hopped in the car and they drove off," the caller added.