Anonymous
01/21/2018 21:29
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Not resolved tonight. Shut down tomorrow. Next vote is now noon tomorrow.
Tomorrow's vote is for a 3 week CR and a "promise" to vote on DACA.
This time we'll believe this promise. For sure.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 21:27
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Not resolved tonight. Shut down tomorrow. Next vote is now noon tomorrow.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 20:42
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Conservatives just want to be angry. They just want an outlet for their foam-at-the-mouth bigotry.
I agree. Spite is America's #1 infectious disease.
someone said it best:
R/Trump = oppositional defiant disorder (ODD = frequent and persistent pattern of anger, irritability, arguing, defiance or vindictiveness
Anonymous
01/21/2018 20:35
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Conservatives just want to be angry. They just want an outlet for their foam-at-the-mouth bigotry.
I agree. Spite is America's #1 infectious disease.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 20:28
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
He has known since 2013 he was running for President. He could have hired "real Americans" any time in that period, including last year after he was elected but before he took office and continued to file the foreign worker waiver forms for Mar-A-Lago and his vineyard in Virginia.
Same with Ivanka, who continue to produce her clothing lines abroad in horrid conditions for her workers. When is she repatriating those jobs?
You’re talking to a brick wall. His supporters don’t care about his actual actions, they just enjoy getting fired up by his angry bitter rhetoric.
This! Conservatives just want to be angry. They just want an outlet for their foam-at-the-mouth bigotry.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:48
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
He has known since 2013 he was running for President. He could have hired "real Americans" any time in that period, including last year after he was elected but before he took office and continued to file the foreign worker waiver forms for Mar-A-Lago and his vineyard in Virginia.
Same with Ivanka, who continue to produce her clothing lines abroad in horrid conditions for her workers. When is she repatriating those jobs?
You’re talking to a brick wall. His supporters don’t care about his actual actions, they just enjoy getting fired up by his angry bitter rhetoric.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:45
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
He has known since 2013 he was running for President. He could have hired "real Americans" any time in that period, including last year after he was elected but before he took office and continued to file the foreign worker waiver forms for Mar-A-Lago and his vineyard in Virginia.
Same with Ivanka, who continue to produce her clothing lines abroad in horrid conditions for her workers. When is she repatriating those jobs?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:44
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
I’ve come to the conclusion that it was a brilliant move by the Republicans to put CHIP in the chopping block. I don’t think they were ever really going to defund it, but now the dems has to fight for it. It turned into some liberal pet entitlement program as opposed to the bipartisan support it typically received. And now the Dems had a choice-fight for CHIP OR DACA, or go for both and risk looking greedy. Seriously, whoever came up with this idea should get a pay raise.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:42
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
Also, are you really this dumb? Because it seems that you would be consistently being taken advantage of IRL
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:41
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
he should be expected to lead by example. Until then, you and he are hypocrites. What exactly is preventing him from hiring American workers?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:40
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump needs to start- rightly- calling Schumer the senator from the Mexican states.
People are catching on to the unholy leftis alliance.
Schumer is standing for what his US citizen constituents want — 1) DACA compromise, 2) not to pay for a useless wall.
Wasn’t Mexico supposed to pay for the wall?
Working class Americans don’t want 80 dollar/day illegal labor. You do for your mansion. Go visit the fire halls in small town USA. You are an elitist like Schumer.
mandate E-VERIFY
NO Chain Migration
No Diversity Lottery
Hire US Citizens first
Stop the Silicon Valley take over of the democratic party
Did you tell Trump? He's asking for foreign worker visas at Mar a Lago. Hypocrites, both of you.
Once the pipeline is cut off he will hire Americans, he just shouldn’t be expected to go it alone.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:40
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will reach an agreement tonight?
Around 6 pm, Graham says he has 5 more Dems in favor of the new Feb 8 proposal (which includes some promise re DACA voting - but from what I can tell doesn't lay out a DACA solution). And the CT Dem senator was just on tv very very cautiously saying he's consider it. So looks like they could be up to 56. Don't follow politics much routinely but doesn't his seem like it ends tonight? How hard can it be to get 4 more?
So are we going through this again in two weeks? Eff that, no.
+1000
The thing is many American families CANNOT go 3 weeks without pay if they don't pass a CR. The military is only paid through January 30. They may not care about anyone else but if theybf*ck with the militarybthey will really anger the base. Decent senators do not want people furloughed and going without pay for weeks while this grinds out when they could pass a CR and spend the next 3 weeks coming to some agreement.
Both sides failed to realize that in a shutdown everyone looks bad. Even if we all have really strong political beliefs, when it comes down to it, my party's moral superiority doesn't pay my bills. People need their jobs.
Then complain to Sen. McConnell who has twice rejected bringing legislation to the floor within the past 48 hours to exempt the military completely from the shut down.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:39
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Graham’s DACA bill has the support of 56+ Senators. His comprehensive reform bill passed in 2013 with 68 votes. The Cotton-Purdue bill to slash legal immigration in half that Miller is pushing has the support of precisely 2 senators, themselves.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:38
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:So now President Miller is blasting Graham, who is trying to get a deal.
I'd say the shutdown is on President Miller.
Yep, 100%
And yet the GOP/Trumpsters on this forum will continue to blame Schumer
Anonymous
01/21/2018 19:32
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Miller is Trump. Trump is the problem and the GOP. No matter how much the GOP lies to the media blaming Dens.
Stephen Miller is the best thing Trump has going. Otherwise he’s surrounded by *all* low IQ Conservative Inc. sellouts. Even Tom Cotton is just hedging; a Conservative Inc. opportunist.
I agree. President Miller makes the decisions.