Anonymous wrote:Why would the County Council hold the school board and administration accountable, when the Voters do not hold the council and other elected officials accountable? What we need is higher taxes and more county government administrators. That should help

The county council has almost no tools to hold the school board and administration accountable. The school board is an independent body. The council just gets to determine budget, and the state tied the council’s hands in that regard years ago. The council can’t condition funding and it can’t even really cut funding anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Why would the County Council hold the school board and administration accountable, when the Voters do not hold the council and other elected officials accountable? What we need is higher taxes and more county government administrators. That should help

Because it’s their job to

It just seems like Wootton families need to decide - does it want to stay where it is in its current condition? Or is it willing to move to get a new building? Because those are the options. If it were me, I would not want my kid to go to school in a building that is unhealthy and in serious disrepair. It looks awful. This would be a no-brainer for me. But it sounds like a lot of parents are willing to trade off the other way - stay in the current building without the prospect of getting the repairs.

Why would the County Council hold the school board and administration accountable, when the Voters do not hold the council and other elected officials accountable? What we need is higher taxes and more county government administrators. That should help

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Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

They assessed the worst schools first, so we do know the worst already. And Wootton is in terrible shape. It's a sick, unsafe building. I empathize with people's attachment to the physical building that represents their community, but what a price for the students and staff to pay to stay in that building until 2042, which is when the current superintendent says that Wootton will be rebuilt.

Did he actually say that? And would that be a definite guarantee? And if so how would the logistics work?

I forgot where I read it, it might've been random post on here. But I read somewhere that one of the delays in renovating Wootton was that there was no option to build while students are onsite due to the layout of the property. They were able to do this with Churchill. But I'm not entirely sure why it worked one property but won't for another.

Another reason I ask is because by 2042, the school at Crown would have been fully open and running several years. Meaning it's not a possible location as a holding school for students. But if they can give a guarantee that Wootton would be renovated in 2042, if you took budget/cost out as a factor, why would they not have been able to renovate it the previous ten or fifteen years?

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Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

They assessed the worst schools first, so we do know the worst already. And Wootton is in terrible shape. It's a sick, unsafe building. I empathize with people's attachment to the physical building that represents their community, but what a price for the students and staff to pay to stay in that building until 2042, which is when the current superintendent says that Wootton will be rebuilt.

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Anonymous wrote:So there are many schools in disrepair and no money to make the repairs. Yet property the taxes are very high and annual cost per student is at outrageous levels. And this is considered by some to be a well run school system. Perhaps we should raise taxes even more and postpone more renovations ? That will make the county more attractive.

They seem to have money for literally everything else-just not to fix the schools.

Its because no one holds them accountable, especially the county council.

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Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

Perfect, so then we also can’t say there are many schools in worse condition can we? Because we simply don’t know. So saying either would be wrong.

I think we know there are other schools in equally or worse shape. Other HS's have regular flooding, ceilings falling down and more.

You are missing the point-All of us should be advocating. It shouldn’t be a contest-All the schools need to be pressuring MCPS to be spending the money on fixing schools rather than boundary studies and other things that don’t have a direct positive effect on the students. Fixing the schools absolutely would.

All of us don't need to be advocating for Wootton as we don't have kids there and we understand the financial mismanagement and its not going to happen. Schools are overcrowded. Maybe not Wootton but most other schools. They need to rezone to make them more reasonably sized.

Anonymous wrote:So there are many schools in disrepair and no money to make the repairs. Yet property the taxes are very high and annual cost per student is at outrageous levels. And this is considered by some to be a well run school system. Perhaps we should raise taxes even more and postpone more renovations ? That will make the county more attractive.

They seem to have money for literally everything else-just not to fix the schools.

So there are many schools in disrepair and no money to make the repairs. Yet property the taxes are very high and annual cost per student is at outrageous levels. And this is considered by some to be a well run school system. Perhaps we should raise taxes even more and postpone more renovations ? That will make the county more attractive.

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Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

Perfect, so then we also can’t say there are many schools in worse condition can we? Because we simply don’t know. So saying either would be wrong.

I think we know there are other schools in equally or worse shape. Other HS's have regular flooding, ceilings falling down and more.

You are missing the point-All of us should be advocating. It shouldn’t be a contest-All the schools need to be pressuring MCPS to be spending the money on fixing schools rather than boundary studies and other things that don’t have a direct positive effect on the students. Fixing the schools absolutely would.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

Perfect, so then we also can’t say there are many schools in worse condition can we? Because we simply don’t know. So saying either would be wrong.

I think we know there are other schools in equally or worse shape. Other HS's have regular flooding, ceilings falling down and more.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.

Perfect, so then we also can’t say there are many schools in worse condition can we? Because we simply don’t know. So saying either would be wrong.

Anonymous wrote:I think we are making much progress in this discussion. We have established that if H passes, the Wootton name will disappear, the new replacement school will be mediocre, that many people who bought into the Wootton district will be seeking to move or to send their kids to private schools, and that we will continue to elect people who think all of this is good for the county.

You all basically live in Gaithersburg...

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Anonymous wrote:Some other things we learned:
You can only advocate for your kids and school if you are at a low performing school, if you are in Wootton it’s not advocating-it’s whining.

If you ask for things to be fixed and are then in turn, presented with the most insane option-you are ridiculed for not accepting the wonderful gift you were so lucky to be offered.

Even though everything will change with option H-it actually all will be exactly the same apparently.

You aren't advocating for your kids. You are advocating for your building. And, you are so entitled you demand everything else be dropped so your small in comparison to other schools can be top of the list with repairs, that reality is all schools need.

As it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-Wootton’s score for its poor condition is the second worst in the county. The problems are not small. And every school that is in poor shape should be advocating, loudly for improvements. Imagine telling your kids to remain quiet when conditions are poor because they shouldn’t speak up because there is always someone who has it worse.

Actually, if you look at the data, they are still working on assessing all the schools so until all the schools are assessed, its impossible to say who has the worse facilities.