Anonymous
02/19/2025 14:00
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Because it helps prevent the spread of HIV
Want to know what prevents the spread of HIV almost 100% - not having male on make sex. We aren’t allowed to say this out loud, but it is true.
You are "not allowed to say this out loud," because it is stupid and factually untrue. You are embarrassing yourself. Please educate yourself on HIV.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/how-is-hiv-transmitted
I cannot even believe there are Americans this ignorant about HIV/AIDS in this day and age. HIV spreads by blood, semen, rectal or vaginal fluids and breast milk. 52% of all HIV cases globally are women - 18.2 million women. So, stopping male on male sex will not 100% stop the AIDS epidemic.
In the US, 22% of all new HIV infections are among people who report heterosexual contact (15% women, 7% men). 7% of new infections are among people who inject drugs.
Circumcision of men decreases HIV transmission rates by about 50%, because the foreskin has cells that are more vulnerable to HIV infection
Read more here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127372/
Helping slow the spread of HIV outside the US is important for many reasons, but generally the biggest one is that HIV infection leads to increased treatment costs (drugs that reduce HIV viral load as well as treatment of AIDS related illnesses) and decreases the productive value of humans (productive value means they work less, earn less and pay fewer taxes). USAID and the USG broadly both at home and abroad sees how it is less costly to prevent or reduce disease than to suffer the consequences of increased spread.
DOGE is focused on line item reductions and doesn't take the time (or have the sense, frankly) to investigate why these investments are made.
It is not some woke group of USAID staffers that came up with a crazy corrupt way to use USG funds. HIV/AIDS prevention is a global effort coordinate among many countries via national governments, international organizations and NGOs, backed by a lot of scientific trials.
You could figure any of this out if you googled and read a range of reliable sources. 15 minutes is all it would take.
Sorry it is 82% of cases. Women get HIV because - you guessed it - the men they have sex with had male on male sexual contact.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7138a1.htm#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20transmission%20category,MMSC%20and%20injection%20drug%20use.
It is absolutely a male on male sexual contact disease that would be almost eradicated if there was no male on male sexual contact. So no, I do not want to pay for Mozambique men to circumcise themselves to avoid transmission of HIV because they choose to have unprotected male on male sexual contact.
Let me guess....you have a "final solution" on how to eradicate male-on-male sex?
Wimp.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 13:39
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Because it helps prevent the spread of HIV
Want to know what prevents the spread of HIV almost 100% - not having male on make sex. We aren’t allowed to say this out loud, but it is true.
You are "not allowed to say this out loud," because it is stupid and factually untrue. You are embarrassing yourself. Please educate yourself on HIV.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/how-is-hiv-transmitted
I cannot even believe there are Americans this ignorant about HIV/AIDS in this day and age. HIV spreads by blood, semen, rectal or vaginal fluids and breast milk. 52% of all HIV cases globally are women - 18.2 million women. So, stopping male on male sex will not 100% stop the AIDS epidemic.
In the US, 22% of all new HIV infections are among people who report heterosexual contact (15% women, 7% men). 7% of new infections are among people who inject drugs.
Circumcision of men decreases HIV transmission rates by about 50%, because the foreskin has cells that are more vulnerable to HIV infection
Read more here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127372/
Helping slow the spread of HIV outside the US is important for many reasons, but generally the biggest one is that HIV infection leads to increased treatment costs (drugs that reduce HIV viral load as well as treatment of AIDS related illnesses) and decreases the productive value of humans (productive value means they work less, earn less and pay fewer taxes). USAID and the USG broadly both at home and abroad sees how it is less costly to prevent or reduce disease than to suffer the consequences of increased spread.
DOGE is focused on line item reductions and doesn't take the time (or have the sense, frankly) to investigate why these investments are made.
It is not some woke group of USAID staffers that came up with a crazy corrupt way to use USG funds. HIV/AIDS prevention is a global effort coordinate among many countries via national governments, international organizations and NGOs, backed by a lot of scientific trials.
You could figure any of this out if you googled and read a range of reliable sources. 15 minutes is all it would take.
Sorry it is 82% of cases. Women get HIV because - you guessed it - the men they have sex with had male on male sexual contact.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7138a1.htm#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20transmission%20category,MMSC%20and%20injection%20drug%20use.
It is absolutely a male on male sexual contact disease that would be almost eradicated if there was no male on male sexual contact. So no, I do not want to pay for Mozambique men to circumcise themselves to avoid transmission of HIV because they choose to have unprotected male on male sexual contact.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 10:04
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Seriously? Take five seconds and think about this. Did you take any health or science classes at all? Its voluntary and its because it prevents the spread of STIs. Google HIV and follow how it was initially spread - then consider the number of Americans who died of HIV in the 80s and 90s and then noodle on why this is an important program and why USAID is important (hint: for the health of not only people in that country, but ours too).
To everyone pulling out random programs and pointing to them as government waste. Just do a little of your own research first.
why just Mozambique then and why not all the asian countries for circumcision? LOL! It's because it is easy to do corruption in Mozambique.
No, it's because generally Asian countries have lower HIV rates and the higher transmission rates are in subgroups like sexworkers and injectable drug users, so it's not as effective to go for broad circumcision of men to stop HIV. Also, there is an existing widespread traditional practice of male circumcision in Africa, while there is not in Asia. So, it's easier to get men to agree to be circumcised, and some of the effort is to help the culture shift from traditional to a more effective medical circumcision. Also, in general Asia is better resourced in terms of national government and health systems.
FWIW, it's not just Mozambique. USAID also supported voluntary medical male circumcision (VMMC) in Lesotho, Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, and Tanzania.
Again, all of this info is easily available. Stop being so gullible.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 09:56
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Because it helps prevent the spread of HIV
Want to know what prevents the spread of HIV almost 100% - not having male on make sex. We aren’t allowed to say this out loud, but it is true.
You are "not allowed to say this out loud," because it is stupid and factually untrue. You are embarrassing yourself. Please educate yourself on HIV.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/how-is-hiv-transmitted
I cannot even believe there are Americans this ignorant about HIV/AIDS in this day and age. HIV spreads by blood, semen, rectal or vaginal fluids and breast milk. 52% of all HIV cases globally are women - 18.2 million women. So, stopping male on male sex will not 100% stop the AIDS epidemic.
In the US, 22% of all new HIV infections are among people who report heterosexual contact (15% women, 7% men). 7% of new infections are among people who inject drugs.
Circumcision of men decreases HIV transmission rates by about 50%, because the foreskin has cells that are more vulnerable to HIV infection
Read more here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1127372/
Helping slow the spread of HIV outside the US is important for many reasons, but generally the biggest one is that HIV infection leads to increased treatment costs (drugs that reduce HIV viral load as well as treatment of AIDS related illnesses) and decreases the productive value of humans (productive value means they work less, earn less and pay fewer taxes). USAID and the USG broadly both at home and abroad sees how it is less costly to prevent or reduce disease than to suffer the consequences of increased spread.
DOGE is focused on line item reductions and doesn't take the time (or have the sense, frankly) to investigate why these investments are made.
It is not some woke group of USAID staffers that came up with a crazy corrupt way to use USG funds. HIV/AIDS prevention is a global effort coordinate among many countries via national governments, international organizations and NGOs, backed by a lot of scientific trials.
You could figure any of this out if you googled and read a range of reliable sources. 15 minutes is all it would take.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:59
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Because it helps prevent the spread of HIV
Want to know what prevents the spread of HIV almost 100% - not having male on make sex. We aren’t allowed to say this out loud, but it is true.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:37
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Seriously? Take five seconds and think about this. Did you take any health or science classes at all? Its voluntary and its because it prevents the spread of STIs. Google HIV and follow how it was initially spread - then consider the number of Americans who died of HIV in the 80s and 90s and then noodle on why this is an important program and why USAID is important (hint: for the health of not only people in that country, but ours too).
To everyone pulling out random programs and pointing to them as government waste. Just do a little of your own research first.
why just Mozambique then and why not all the asian countries for circumcision? LOL! It's because it is easy to do corruption in Mozambique.
OMG, or...occams razor... there is a bigger AiDs issue in Mozembique.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:36
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How sick and amoral is it that the world’s richest man is cutting food and medicine for the world’s poorest children, so that America’s wealthy can pay less taxes.
That is 100% what we are witnessing.
There is a waiver for food/medicine programs. Also, there is no direct correlation between government cuts and tax breaks, particularly for the wealthy. Your premise is flawed.
The checks and balances for USAID spending have clearly failed. It makes sense that all the agency IG’s were fired. They were clearly ok with the status quo. Politicians have forgotten that they are stewards of taxpayer dollars, not owners. The cuts are harsh, and should be more targeted, but are needed.
then why is food rotting on US docks and why are medicines not being distributed?
Because they fired the people who do the distributions and the on the ground networks. Get it?
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:31
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Because it helps prevent the spread of HIV
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:22
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Seriously? Take five seconds and think about this. Did you take any health or science classes at all? Its voluntary and its because it prevents the spread of STIs. Google HIV and follow how it was initially spread - then consider the number of Americans who died of HIV in the 80s and 90s and then noodle on why this is an important program and why USAID is important (hint: for the health of not only people in that country, but ours too).
To everyone pulling out random programs and pointing to them as government waste. Just do a little of your own research first.
why just Mozambique then and why not all the asian countries for circumcision? LOL! It's because it is easy to do corruption in Mozambique.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:20
Subject: Re:Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over one trillion in government waste
Screw all this. Even if 1/4th of this is true, the agency needs to shut down right away for good and senior officials need to be charged with Govt waste. I can't believe anyone think this is ok and employees never informed about this wastage to anyone.
Exactly. How did Democrats get this corrupted?
Did Clintons and Obamas spearhead this?
why would Clintons care? Their foundation was getting paid from USAID and that is all in public now. Who knows how much more behind the scene?
haha, so true. They are hiding right now.
And Obama? While campaigning, he even vowed to slash government waste.
Funny how he only increased the waste after he got into power. Any yes, now he’s awfully quiet.
Looks like USAID kept on funding Clinton foundation all these years.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 08:20
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:How sick and amoral is it that the world’s richest man is cutting food and medicine for the world’s poorest children, so that America’s wealthy can pay less taxes.
That is 100% what we are witnessing.
There is a waiver for food/medicine programs. Also, there is no direct correlation between government cuts and tax breaks, particularly for the wealthy. Your premise is flawed.
The checks and balances for USAID spending have clearly failed. It makes sense that all the agency IG’s were fired. They were clearly ok with the status quo. Politicians have forgotten that they are stewards of taxpayer dollars, not owners. The cuts are harsh, and should be more targeted, but are needed.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 07:59
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:How much $$$$$$ did USAID “offer” each poor man in Mozambique to do risky surgery on his genitalia?
Why not respect their cultural values, and simply model proper hygiene for both men and women?
Some religions mandate circumcision on their baby boys, but certainly not all.
Again, cultural respect is essential.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 07:48
Subject: Closing USAID
It prevents AIDS.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 07:32
Subject: Closing USAID
Anonymous wrote:
TEN MILLION DOLLARS for “volunteer male circumcision” in Mozambique.
That’s where our hard earned tax dollars had been funneled. Why???
Seriously? Take five seconds and think about this. Did you take any health or science classes at all? Its voluntary and its because it prevents the spread of STIs. Google HIV and follow how it was initially spread - then consider the number of Americans who died of HIV in the 80s and 90s and then noodle on why this is an important program and why USAID is important (hint: for the health of not only people in that country, but ours too).
To everyone pulling out random programs and pointing to them as government waste. Just do a little of your own research first.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 07:32
Subject: Re:Closing USAID
Any data on how many of these circumcisions have been completed? Sounds like a very expensive program. It's not an expensive procedure.