Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 12:41     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear—DCU struggles to retain players and field competitive teams. Never, and I mean never, compare them to a European academy or any academy with a small infrastructure. They are just like every other club in the area: focused on building so-called “elite” teams while losing nearly every game. Meanwhile, they take credit for “sending” players to college programs they had zero involvement in recruiting-wise.

Just take a look at how their academy “alumni” are benefiting from their time at DCU. Many are sitting in the transfer portal, not playing, or even worse—having their commitments pulled due to poor decisions made by the academy. Development isn’t just about slapping a badge on a player and hoping for the best. It requires real investment, real coaching, and a real pathway forward.


Your biased emotional opinion lacking facts, truth or verifiable data is noted


lol Plenty of verifiable data here. But it’s cool just stick with the plan. DENY DENY. Maybe Kevin can turn it around.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:58     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:Let’s be clear—DCU struggles to retain players and field competitive teams. Never, and I mean never, compare them to a European academy or any academy with a small infrastructure. They are just like every other club in the area: focused on building so-called “elite” teams while losing nearly every game. Meanwhile, they take credit for “sending” players to college programs they had zero involvement in recruiting-wise.

Just take a look at how their academy “alumni” are benefiting from their time at DCU. Many are sitting in the transfer portal, not playing, or even worse—having their commitments pulled due to poor decisions made by the academy. Development isn’t just about slapping a badge on a player and hoping for the best. It requires real investment, real coaching, and a real pathway forward.


Your biased emotional opinion lacking facts, truth or verifiable data is noted
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:55     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Let’s be clear—DCU struggles to retain players and field competitive teams. Never, and I mean never, compare them to a European academy or any academy with a small infrastructure. They are just like every other club in the area: focused on building so-called “elite” teams while losing nearly every game. Meanwhile, they take credit for “sending” players to college programs they had zero involvement in recruiting-wise.

Just take a look at how their academy “alumni” are benefiting from their time at DCU. Many are sitting in the transfer portal, not playing, or even worse—having their commitments pulled due to poor decisions made by the academy. Development isn’t just about slapping a badge on a player and hoping for the best. It requires real investment, real coaching, and a real pathway forward.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:44     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


Define how the other MLS clubs are closer to Ajax or Barcelona or Chelsea academies and please be detailed and very specific.


Already been done in this thread...


Missed it.
Indulge us in detailing how similar other MLS academies are to Barcelona or Bayern Munich academies.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:42     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


You're naming clubs here that belong to massive ownership groups that have Champions League level clubs under the same umbrella?


Not really understanding why this is relevant...


You don't know why its relevant to bring up comparing a regular MLS Club to a MLS Club owned by owners that also own top tier clubs in Europe?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:38     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


You're naming clubs here that belong to massive ownership groups that have Champions League level clubs under the same umbrella?


Not really understanding why this is relevant...
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:36     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


Define how the other MLS clubs are closer to Ajax or Barcelona or Chelsea academies and please be detailed and very specific.


Already been done in this thread...
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:15     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


You're naming clubs here that belong to massive ownership groups that have Champions League level clubs under the same umbrella?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:13     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.


Define how the other MLS clubs are closer to Ajax or Barcelona or Chelsea academies and please be detailed and very specific.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 10:47     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did anybody else get fired at the academy, or are we waiting until Friday for the big reveal? [/quote]

Absolutely no idea...I'm sure with a new doc coming in there could be some changes. [/quote]

Thanks for the update!! Have they announced the new director?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 10:39     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[quote=Anonymous]Did anybody else get fired at the academy, or are we waiting until Friday for the big reveal? [/quote]

Absolutely no idea...I'm sure with a new doc coming in there could be some changes.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 10:37     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Did anybody else get fired at the academy, or are we waiting until Friday for the big reveal?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 09:26     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.


We've already established that the MLS youth system, in its entirety, is behind Europe. That isn't the comparison or a fair comparison. There are just some clubs that are closer to Europe standards than others. Philly, Red bulls, Dallas, Real Salt Lake, nycfc are a few. DCU is nowhere close to these academies in any way and many of those academies are controlling their player pool at the development phase. Red bulls, union and Dallas especially.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 08:56     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:Also supports the concept raised here that DCU doesn't start their pipeline early enough.


How many MLS Club academies have a program that starts at U8/U9 with full time participation and fully staffed with accredited, licensed, certified and experienced professional youth development coaches/staff specifically specializing in the developement phases?
U8 - U10
U11 - U13

Because that's what happens at the top international academies who produces the most professionals and international players.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 08:42     Subject: DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/matt-hartman-on-the-new-homegrown-rules/id1611865497?i=1000577479814

Randomly came across this podcast from 2022. Start at the 6 min mark, he briefly touches on DCU. Youth sports analyst. Pretty much says what was said in previous posts.

TLDR: DCUA sucks at scouting. Talent rich area and outside academies come and scoop up players.


Interesting. Analyst said people are not confident in DCUs ability to scout and nurture talent and competitors see that as an opportunity to take talent from the region. A position that is definitely supported in this thread.


Also supported in this thread are there are losers with axes to grind against the academy with an endless obsession because their kids were rejected and other low self-esteem and insecurities reasons.


Great post. Super helpful.