Anonymous
09/26/2024 13:02
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have people on this thread saying Israel has been perpetrating consistent genocide since 1948.
That’s frankly ludicrous.
55,000 Palestinians—civilians and soldiers—have died since 1948.
That’s awful. It honestly is.
But it’s not even close to genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown by leaps and bounds during that time.
Lol what are you smoking? Over 55k have died since 10/7.
No. 40,000 have died in Gaza.
Another 15k are missing and have not been found. Did they tap their heels like Dorothy and get to Tel Aviv? You do the math
Even if you say 65,000 have died since 1948, that’s still not even close to a genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown 5x in that timeframe.
6,407 Palestinians died from Jan 1, 2008 to Sept 30, 2023.
So your estimate is really low if you think only 65k have died since 1948. Estimates ranging from 41k-80k have died in the current war. Rumor is Israel and Hamas are underreporting the casualties for political reasons
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:52
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Despite this heady rhetoric, Netanyahu’s estimates of an imminent Iranian nuclear bomb have consistently been at odds with analyses made by his own intelligence agency. In 2011, departing Mossad intelligence chief Meir Dagan said in his final intelligence summary that, contrary to Netanyahu’s repeated statements at the time, an Iranian nuclear weapon is in fact not imminent, and that any military action against the country could end up spurring the development of such a weapon.
Just last week, leaked intelligence cables reported by Al Jazeera revealed that at roughly the same time in 2012 that Netanyahu was brandishing his cartoon bomb and telling the United Nations that Iran was close to obtaining a nuclear weapon, Israeli intelligence had actually determined the country was “not performing the activity necessary to produce weapons.”
The conclusion from this history is inescapable. Over the course of more than 20 years, Benjamin Netanyahu has made false claims about nuclear weapons programs in both Iran and Iraq, inventing imaginary timelines for their development, and making public statements that contradicted the analysis of his own intelligence advisers.
Despite this, he continues to be treated by lawmakers and media figures as a credible voice on this issue.
Great points. Netanyahu has been having fantasies of attacking Iran for the last three decades. But I think it’s something to with their scripture. Somewhere it talks about Persia being a threat to Jewish people so Netanyahu has been trying to convince the world to go to war with Iran since the beginning of time.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:42
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Here is a reminder from Miko Peled, former IDF Special Forces, on what this violent conflict is all about, “Israel is staging a prolonged assault on the Palestinian people’s very means of existence—destroying homes, hospitals, sanitation infrastructure, food and water sources, schools, and more. To understand the genocidal campaign unfolding before our eyes, we must examine the roots of Israeli society. Israel is a settler colonial state whose existence depends on the elimination of Palestinians. Accordingly, Israel is a deeply militarized society whose citizens are raised in an environment of historical revisionism and indoctrination that whitewashes Israel’s crimes while cultivating a deep-seated racism against Palestinians.”.
https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/
https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:34
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Almost two decades ago, in 1996, Netanyahu addressed a joint session of Congress where he darkly warned, “If Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country, and not only for the Middle East, but for all mankind,” adding that, “the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.”
Almost 20 years later that deadline has apparently still not passed, but Netanyahu is still making dire predictions about an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon. Four years before that Congressional speech, in 1992, then-parliamentarian Netanyahu advised the Israeli Knesset that Iran was “three to five years” away from reaching nuclear weapons capability, and that this threat had to be “uprooted by an international front headed by the U.S.”
In his 1995 book, “Fighting Terrorism,” Netanyahu once again asserted that Iran would have a nuclear weapon in “three to five years,” apparently forgetting about the expiration of his old deadline.
For a considerable time thereafter, Netanyahu switched his focus to hyping the purported nuclear threat posed by another country, Iraq, about which he claimed there was “no question” that it was “advancing towards to the development of nuclear weapons.” Testifying again in front of Congress in 2002, Netanyahu claimed that Iraq’s nonexistent nuclear program was in fact so advanced that the country was now operating “centrifuges the size of washing machines.”
Needless to say, these claims turned out to be disastrously false. Despite this, Netanyahu, apparently unchastened by the havoc his previous false charges helped create, immediately went back to ringing the alarm bells about Iran.
A 2009 U.S. State Department diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks described then-prime ministerial candidate Netanyahu informing a visiting Congressional delegation that Iran was “probably one or two years away” from developing weapons capability. Another cable later the same year showed Netanyahu, now back in office as prime minister, telling a separate delegation of American politicians in Jerusalem that “Iran has the capability now to make one bomb,” adding that alternatively, “they could wait and make several bombs in a year or two.”
In statements around this time made to journalists, Netanyahu continued to raise alarm about this supposedly imminent, apocalyptic threat. As he told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg in a 2010 interview, “You don’t want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs,” adding, “that’s what is happening in Iran.”
In 2012 Netanyahu said in closed talks reported by Israeli media that Iran is just “a few months away” from attaining nuclear capabilities. Later that same year, he gave a widely-mocked address at the United Nations in which he alleged that Iran would have the ability to construct a weapon within roughly one year, while using a printout of a cartoon bomb to illustrate his point.
TLDR 🤣
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:33
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
[twitter]
Please, the PP is obviously bought and paid for by Tehran.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is why Israel is so bothered. Irans new president fashions himself as a reformist and wants a hard re-set and good relationship with the West. He doesn’t want war.
He is to the left of Netanyahu on national security and war.
Israel wants war so badly from Iran and Hezbollah and have done everything all summer to egg retaliation and start trouble
You’re so gullible. Iran can call for peace while making Hezbollah do their dirty work.
Please, the PP is obviously bought and paid for by Tehran.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:29
Subject: Re:Lebanon / Israel
Despite this heady rhetoric, Netanyahu’s estimates of an imminent Iranian nuclear bomb have consistently been at odds with analyses made by his own intelligence agency. In 2011, departing Mossad intelligence chief Meir Dagan said in his final intelligence summary that, contrary to Netanyahu’s repeated statements at the time, an Iranian nuclear weapon is in fact not imminent, and that any military action against the country could end up spurring the development of such a weapon.
Just last week, leaked intelligence cables reported by Al Jazeera revealed that at roughly the same time in 2012 that Netanyahu was brandishing his cartoon bomb and telling the United Nations that Iran was close to obtaining a nuclear weapon, Israeli intelligence had actually determined the country was “not performing the activity necessary to produce weapons.”
The conclusion from this history is inescapable. Over the course of more than 20 years, Benjamin Netanyahu has made false claims about nuclear weapons programs in both Iran and Iraq, inventing imaginary timelines for their development, and making public statements that contradicted the analysis of his own intelligence advisers.
Despite this, he continues to be treated by lawmakers and media figures as a credible voice on this issue.
Just last week, leaked intelligence cables reported by Al Jazeera revealed that at roughly the same time in 2012 that Netanyahu was brandishing his cartoon bomb and telling the United Nations that Iran was close to obtaining a nuclear weapon, Israeli intelligence had actually determined the country was “not performing the activity necessary to produce weapons.”
The conclusion from this history is inescapable. Over the course of more than 20 years, Benjamin Netanyahu has made false claims about nuclear weapons programs in both Iran and Iraq, inventing imaginary timelines for their development, and making public statements that contradicted the analysis of his own intelligence advisers.
Despite this, he continues to be treated by lawmakers and media figures as a credible voice on this issue.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:28
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Almost two decades ago, in 1996, Netanyahu addressed a joint session of Congress where he darkly warned, “If Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country, and not only for the Middle East, but for all mankind,” adding that, “the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.”
Almost 20 years later that deadline has apparently still not passed, but Netanyahu is still making dire predictions about an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon. Four years before that Congressional speech, in 1992, then-parliamentarian Netanyahu advised the Israeli Knesset that Iran was “three to five years” away from reaching nuclear weapons capability, and that this threat had to be “uprooted by an international front headed by the U.S.”
In his 1995 book, “Fighting Terrorism,” Netanyahu once again asserted that Iran would have a nuclear weapon in “three to five years,” apparently forgetting about the expiration of his old deadline.
For a considerable time thereafter, Netanyahu switched his focus to hyping the purported nuclear threat posed by another country, Iraq, about which he claimed there was “no question” that it was “advancing towards to the development of nuclear weapons.” Testifying again in front of Congress in 2002, Netanyahu claimed that Iraq’s nonexistent nuclear program was in fact so advanced that the country was now operating “centrifuges the size of washing machines.”
Needless to say, these claims turned out to be disastrously false. Despite this, Netanyahu, apparently unchastened by the havoc his previous false charges helped create, immediately went back to ringing the alarm bells about Iran.
A 2009 U.S. State Department diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks described then-prime ministerial candidate Netanyahu informing a visiting Congressional delegation that Iran was “probably one or two years away” from developing weapons capability. Another cable later the same year showed Netanyahu, now back in office as prime minister, telling a separate delegation of American politicians in Jerusalem that “Iran has the capability now to make one bomb,” adding that alternatively, “they could wait and make several bombs in a year or two.”
In statements around this time made to journalists, Netanyahu continued to raise alarm about this supposedly imminent, apocalyptic threat. As he told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg in a 2010 interview, “You don’t want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs,” adding, “that’s what is happening in Iran.”
In 2012 Netanyahu said in closed talks reported by Israeli media that Iran is just “a few months away” from attaining nuclear capabilities. Later that same year, he gave a widely-mocked address at the United Nations in which he alleged that Iran would have the ability to construct a weapon within roughly one year, while using a printout of a cartoon bomb to illustrate his point.
Almost 20 years later that deadline has apparently still not passed, but Netanyahu is still making dire predictions about an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon. Four years before that Congressional speech, in 1992, then-parliamentarian Netanyahu advised the Israeli Knesset that Iran was “three to five years” away from reaching nuclear weapons capability, and that this threat had to be “uprooted by an international front headed by the U.S.”
In his 1995 book, “Fighting Terrorism,” Netanyahu once again asserted that Iran would have a nuclear weapon in “three to five years,” apparently forgetting about the expiration of his old deadline.
For a considerable time thereafter, Netanyahu switched his focus to hyping the purported nuclear threat posed by another country, Iraq, about which he claimed there was “no question” that it was “advancing towards to the development of nuclear weapons.” Testifying again in front of Congress in 2002, Netanyahu claimed that Iraq’s nonexistent nuclear program was in fact so advanced that the country was now operating “centrifuges the size of washing machines.”
Needless to say, these claims turned out to be disastrously false. Despite this, Netanyahu, apparently unchastened by the havoc his previous false charges helped create, immediately went back to ringing the alarm bells about Iran.
A 2009 U.S. State Department diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks described then-prime ministerial candidate Netanyahu informing a visiting Congressional delegation that Iran was “probably one or two years away” from developing weapons capability. Another cable later the same year showed Netanyahu, now back in office as prime minister, telling a separate delegation of American politicians in Jerusalem that “Iran has the capability now to make one bomb,” adding that alternatively, “they could wait and make several bombs in a year or two.”
In statements around this time made to journalists, Netanyahu continued to raise alarm about this supposedly imminent, apocalyptic threat. As he told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg in a 2010 interview, “You don’t want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs,” adding, “that’s what is happening in Iran.”
In 2012 Netanyahu said in closed talks reported by Israeli media that Iran is just “a few months away” from attaining nuclear capabilities. Later that same year, he gave a widely-mocked address at the United Nations in which he alleged that Iran would have the ability to construct a weapon within roughly one year, while using a printout of a cartoon bomb to illustrate his point.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:25
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:This is why Israel is so bothered. Irans new president fashions himself as a reformist and wants a hard re-set and good relationship with the West. He doesn’t want war.
He is to the left of Netanyahu on national security and war.
Israel wants war so badly from Iran and Hezbollah and have done everything all summer to egg retaliation and start trouble
You’re so gullible. Iran can call for peace while making Hezbollah do their dirty work.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:23
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have people on this thread saying Israel has been perpetrating consistent genocide since 1948.
That’s frankly ludicrous.
55,000 Palestinians—civilians and soldiers—have died since 1948.
That’s awful. It honestly is.
But it’s not even close to genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown by leaps and bounds during that time.
Lol what are you smoking? Over 55k have died since 10/7.
No. 40,000 have died in Gaza.
Another 15k are missing and have not been found. Did they tap their heels like Dorothy and get to Tel Aviv? You do the math
Even if you say 65,000 have died since 1948, that’s still not even close to a genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown 5x in that timeframe.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:20
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
This guy is much smarter than Netanyahu
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-president-says-lebanon-strikes-are-an-israeli-trap-to-draw-tehran-into-war/amp/
Iran’s president accused Israel on Monday of seeking a wider war in the Middle East and laying “traps” to lead his country into a wider conflict.
Masoud Pezeshkian told about two dozen media representatives that Iran does not want to see the current war in Gaza and airstrikes across the Israeli-Lebanon border expanded, saying that while Israel insists it does not want a wider war, it is taking actions that show otherwise
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-president-says-lebanon-strikes-are-an-israeli-trap-to-draw-tehran-into-war/amp/
Iran’s president accused Israel on Monday of seeking a wider war in the Middle East and laying “traps” to lead his country into a wider conflict.
Masoud Pezeshkian told about two dozen media representatives that Iran does not want to see the current war in Gaza and airstrikes across the Israeli-Lebanon border expanded, saying that while Israel insists it does not want a wider war, it is taking actions that show otherwise
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:18
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have people on this thread saying Israel has been perpetrating consistent genocide since 1948.
That’s frankly ludicrous.
55,000 Palestinians—civilians and soldiers—have died since 1948.
That’s awful. It honestly is.
But it’s not even close to genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown by leaps and bounds during that time.
Lol what are you smoking? Over 55k have died since 10/7.
No. 40,000 have died in Gaza.
Another 15k are missing and have not been found. Did they tap their heels like Dorothy and get to Tel Aviv? You do the math
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:18
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
This is why Israel is so bothered. Irans new president fashions himself as a reformist and wants a hard re-set and good relationship with the West. He doesn’t want war.
He is to the left of Netanyahu on national security and war.
Israel wants war so badly from Iran and Hezbollah and have done everything all summer to egg retaliation and start trouble
He is to the left of Netanyahu on national security and war.
Israel wants war so badly from Iran and Hezbollah and have done everything all summer to egg retaliation and start trouble
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:16
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have people on this thread saying Israel has been perpetrating consistent genocide since 1948.
That’s frankly ludicrous.
55,000 Palestinians—civilians and soldiers—have died since 1948.
That’s awful. It honestly is.
But it’s not even close to genocide.
The Palestinian population has grown by leaps and bounds during that time.
Lol what are you smoking? Over 55k have died since 10/7.
No. 40,000 have died in Gaza.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:16
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.
A real and innocent person.
Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.
My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.
A real and innocent child.
Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.
Was this kid Druze and playing soccer in Golan Heights? Is that the Israeli strike you’re talking about because Hezbollah didn’t kill anybody in Israel since their last ceasefire in 2006.
60 Israelis have died in Hezbollah strikes so far. So you’re flat out wrong.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:06
Subject: Lebanon / Israel
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend’s aunt in Lebanon was killed today when she left her apartment to go see her children.
A real and innocent person.
Anyone who is cheering for Israel at this point is deeply disturbed.
My friends child in Israel was killed last month when he was playing outside.
A real and innocent child.
Anyone who is cheering for Hezbollah at this point is deeply disturbed.
No one is cheering for Hezbollah, moron! But we are cheering against the genocide being committed by Israel.
Plenty of people on this thread want Israel to be eliminated and Hezbollah is bent on that.
So … yeah. There’s support for Hezbollah here.
Then Israel needs to take it up with Iran.
They want the Us their slaves to do it