Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools.

Not even close to right with how EA and ED programs have fundamentally changed college admissions. PP bought into all those UChicago pamphlets and the fee waivers meant to lower their acceptance rate.
With Chicago letting in so few people outside of early rounds and allowing you off the waitlist only knowing you'll attend, you could call all Ivies and almost any other schools UChicago reject schools

There’s really no right or wrong. It’s all based on opinion!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

Nope, only Harvard matters. The rest are fillers

+1

“ Kids attend Duke for the better weather, school spirit, and being in the South.”

Notice no mention of academics here.

Obviously it’s not just Harvard or bust. Kids attend Stanford for the better weather, better tech opportunities, and being in the West. Kids attend Princeton for the deep undergrad focus. Kids attend MIT or Caltech for the intense focus on STEM and dedication to research. Kids attend Duke for the better weather, school spirit, and being in the South. Kids attend Yale for the intense focus on humanities. Kids attend Wharton to have the best direct business training out of undergrad. Kids attend Columbia to be in Manhattan. I agree there are few alternatives to Harvard, but they’re there and they’re attractive for a variety of reasons to different kids.

Anonymous wrote:It’s Harvard or bust. No other college matters. They are all Harvard rejects.

Living under a rock? People are wise to how Harvard is not accepting the best and the brightest but the rich and the connected. We shall see what the long-term consequence of such policy is in the near future especially with fewer and fewer needs for attorneys and MBAs.

Anonymous wrote:Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

Nope, only Harvard matters. The rest are fillers

It’s Harvard or bust. No other college matters. They are all Harvard rejects.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

As a general FYI, if someone writes CalTech, they are not very familiar with Caltech.
I see it written as CalTech quite a bit on DCUM, which is surprising given all the STEM discussion.

Duke still too high

Anonymous wrote:Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

As a general FYI, if someone writes CalTech, they are not very familiar with Caltech.
I see it written as CalTech quite a bit on DCUM, which is surprising given all the STEM discussion.

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools.

Not even close to right with how EA and ED programs have fundamentally changed college admissions. PP bought into all those UChicago pamphlets and the fee waivers meant to lower their acceptance rate.
With Chicago letting in so few people outside of early rounds and allowing you off the waitlist only knowing you'll attend, you could call all Ivies and almost any other schools UChicago reject schools

Anonymous wrote:Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

Does undergrad matter that much for those of us under 45 other than it helped us get first jobs and admission to great grad schools? I went to a good school on your list of places that matter and a 2nd grad school on this list too. The grad institution is more important in terms of $$ and reputation even in social conversations, though I have noticed in DC I'm asked where I went to college far more often than anywhere else I've lived. I can only think of one person in my college friend group who didn't go to grad school (we are all still under 40 but it seems similar for those who are a little older too), and rank and prestige matter more there whether it be b-school (M7), law school (T14), or PhD programs (where the top grad schools are producing the vast majority of faculty members).

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools.

Chicago was often ranked below Northwestern even in USNWR and was regularly harder to get into. I don't know where that comment is coming from. Northwestern also has a lot more endowment $$ (+ over $1.2 billion).
The 2nd one makes sense except for those who prefer Yale or Princeton. They are reasonable alternatives for the same cost, as is Stanford. With some extra grant $$, you could consider the "other school in Cambridge" too.

Alright, let's do a proper list.

MIT
Princeton
Stanford
Harvard
CalTech
Duke
Yale
Penn
Chicago
Rice
Northwestern
Brown
Vanderbilt
Michigan
Berkeley
Johns Hopkins
Columbia
UCLA
Dartmouth
Williams
Notre Dame
Swarthmore
Cornell
Annapolis
Amherst
West Point
Bowdoin
Pomona
Georgetown

Nothing else matters

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools.

How about Idaho State? Harvard reject school?

Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools.