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Anonymous wrote:Most astute observers believe that the SC decision will not ultimately change college admissions much. If the schools overtly disengage from racial proxies, studies show that blacks and Hispanics will lose out to whites and Asians. But, schools are likely to develop more ambiguous criteria that allow them to maintain the status quo or whatever profile they choose.

Yes, if they simply use SES as a proxy, they can easily keep the diversity. And I think most people are fine with SES affirmative action, but not by race.

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

Run of the mill?

Nope. It’s all about donations. Who gives what. You scratch my back…

Just ask the families with kids from private schools how much they donated to their guidance counseling office to pass on to the Ivies admissions offices. There’s always a back door channel. Always.

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

1450 is still 99th percentile. There's essentially no difference in their test-taking ability from someone with 1590. If all else was equal and the 1450 was significantly more courageous, kind and likeable, I'm not sure why you wouldn't choose them regardless of skin color.

I think the difference is big between 1450 and 1590. 1450 might be 99th percentile, but it's not good enough especially for those elite schools.
Now 1590 is what? like 99.99 percentile? Now we are talking.
We all know that courage, kindness, and likability score is bullshit.

They keep admitting them. They keep graduating. How is that even possible?

It's because the real threshold is 1400. Anything over that is perfectly fine. They can pull names from hats at that point.

that's the problem.
why pull names from hats when they can admit the 1590 kid who deserves more than the 1400 kid.

Why does the 1590 kid "deserve" it more??

Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

Anonymous wrote:An Asian American student from Florida with a 1590 SAT score who was rejected from six elite universities has joined the Supreme Court case seeking to end race-based admissions.

About the student: Jon Wang, an 18-year-old student with a 4.65 high school GPA and a perfect score on the SAT's math section, was rejected from MIT, CalTech, Princeton, Harvard, Carnegie Mellon and the University of California, Berkeley. He blames affirmative action, which notably was banned in California in 1995.

"I gave them my test scores, and then they must've ran the model on that… [they] told me I had a 20% chance of getting accepted to Harvard as an Asian American and a 95% chance as an African American," Wang, whose parents immigrated from China, told Fox News.

Wang has since been accepted at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

Wang joined the anti-affirmative action nonprofit Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA), which is currently seeking to overturn the Supreme Court’s 2003 ruling in Grutter v. Bollinger in cases against Harvard and the University of North Carolina.

The lawsuits: The two landmark cases — Students for Fair Admissions v. President and Fellows of Harvard and Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina — were kept separate by the Supreme Court due to Harvard's status as a private institution; UNC, on the other hand, is public. The case against Harvard examines whether the university violated Title VI of the Civil Rights Act by "discriminating against Asian American applicants in favor of white applicants," while UNC is similarly being sued for refusing to consider a "race-neutral alternative" in their admissions.

https://news.yahoo.com/asian-american-student-1590-sat-171857237.html

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

1450 is still 99th percentile. There's essentially no difference in their test-taking ability from someone with 1590. If all else was equal and the 1450 was significantly more courageous, kind and likeable, I'm not sure why you wouldn't choose them regardless of skin color.

I think the difference is big between 1450 and 1590. 1450 might be 99th percentile, but it's not good enough especially for those elite schools.
Now 1590 is what? like 99.99 percentile? Now we are talking.
We all know that courage, kindness, and likability score is bullshit.

They keep admitting them. They keep graduating. How is that even possible?

It's because the real threshold is 1400. Anything over that is perfectly fine. They can pull names from hats at that point.

that's the problem.
why pull names from hats when they can admit the 1590 kid who deserves more than the 1400 kid.

Why does the 1590 kid "deserve" it more??

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Anonymous wrote:This case is going nowhere. Those stats are run of the mill at those schools, regardless of ethnicity.

However 1450 kids get accepted with certain skin color or rich parents over 1590 kid because.... courage, kindness, and likability?

1450 is still 99th percentile. There's essentially no difference in their test-taking ability from someone with 1590. If all else was equal and the 1450 was significantly more courageous, kind and likeable, I'm not sure why you wouldn't choose them regardless of skin color.

I think the difference is big between 1450 and 1590. 1450 might be 99th percentile, but it's not good enough especially for those elite schools.
Now 1590 is what? like 99.99 percentile? Now we are talking.
We all know that courage, kindness, and likability score is bullshit.

They keep admitting them. They keep graduating. How is that even possible?

It's because the real threshold is 1400. Anything over that is perfectly fine. They can pull names from hats at that point.

that's the problem.
why pull names from hats when they can admit the 1590 kid who deserves more than the 1400 kid.

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Anonymous wrote:eh. my white kid had higher stats than that kid, and he got rejected to all those schools, too, including GA Tech.

There is no dispute: The college admission system is totally rigged against white and Asian applicants.

Anonymous wrote: Can Irish Americans, German Americans, Italian Americans, Blonde Hair people, people under 5 feet tall, people with pimples, and so on and so on sue?

Anonymous wrote: Can Irish Americans, German Americans, Italian Americans, Blonde Hair people, people under 5 feet tall, people with pimples, and so on and so on sue?

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Anonymous wrote: Can Irish Americans, German Americans, Italian Americans, Blonde Hair people, people under 5 feet tall, people with pimples, and so on and so on sue?

An example, https://abcnews.go.com/Business/starbucks-discrimination-lawsuit-awarded-white-employee-25-million/story?id=100104620

Anonymous wrote: Can Irish Americans, German Americans, Italian Americans, Blonde Hair people, people under 5 feet tall, people with pimples, and so on and so on sue?