Anonymous
01/21/2022 20:40
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat who voted for Youngkin. I am glad that he is putting pressure on the school systems to eliminate the mask mandate. It is a shame that he will enact other policies that I strongly oppose, but I felt that those issues had to be sacrificed for the moment. I am an FCPS high school teacher with high school-aged kids.
For fighting against mask mandates? It was worth it to you? And you know it's just going to be performance--FCPS will be able to keep them as long as the CDC recommends it (and that's how long they would have kept them anyway) or the legislation changes--which isn't the governor anyway. I hope you think about your voting a little more carefully rather than impulsively in the future if this really is your thought process.
+1
Over a mask mandate? For real? Wow.
Since you didn't see my response from upthread. Yes, for real.
I do think my voting for Youngkin will be worth it to me and my family. I am hoping that FCPS will bend to the pressure sooner rather than later. We shall see. FWIW, I care mostly about protecting the environment in meaningful ways, enacting strict gun control, and balancing the budget. Not like the Democrats are getting any of that done for me.
I think it is a shame that Youngkin is pushing back against the vaccine mandates, but considering the Supreme Court decision, it isn't like McAuliffe would have been able to enforce them either.
Oh hang on. You voted for a REPUBLICAN governor, because Republicans are known for their environmental stewardship, support for common sense gun legislation, and ability to balance budgets?
Um, no. I voted for Youngkin because of the mask mandate and threat of virtual school. I was just saying that the VA Demoncrats do not consider my priorities to be their priorities at the moment, so 4 years of Ypungkin will likely not be much different than McAuliffe in that regard.
Lady, if what you say is real and you’re not just some R trying to trick people here, then I’m sorry but you win the stupidity award for that utterly stupid vote.
Evening clown. Keep up this kind of rhetoric. Non-partisans will continue running from you in droves. As to the award…you have the Noble. I am sure the other side continues to welcome your rhetoric. Barnum and Bailey will be here in the spring in case you need a job.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 20:36
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat who voted for Youngkin. I am glad that he is putting pressure on the school systems to eliminate the mask mandate. It is a shame that he will enact other policies that I strongly oppose, but I felt that those issues had to be sacrificed for the moment. I am an FCPS high school teacher with high school-aged kids.
For fighting against mask mandates? It was worth it to you? And you know it's just going to be performance--FCPS will be able to keep them as long as the CDC recommends it (and that's how long they would have kept them anyway) or the legislation changes--which isn't the governor anyway. I hope you think about your voting a little more carefully rather than impulsively in the future if this really is your thought process.
+1
Over a mask mandate? For real? Wow.
Since you didn't see my response from upthread. Yes, for real.
I do think my voting for Youngkin will be worth it to me and my family. I am hoping that FCPS will bend to the pressure sooner rather than later. We shall see. FWIW, I care mostly about protecting the environment in meaningful ways, enacting strict gun control, and balancing the budget. Not like the Democrats are getting any of that done for me.
I think it is a shame that Youngkin is pushing back against the vaccine mandates, but considering the Supreme Court decision, it isn't like McAuliffe would have been able to enforce them either.
Oh hang on. You voted for a REPUBLICAN governor, because Republicans are known for their environmental stewardship, support for common sense gun legislation, and ability to balance budgets?
Um, no. I voted for Youngkin because of the mask mandate and threat of virtual school. I was just saying that the VA Demoncrats do not consider my priorities to be their priorities at the moment, so 4 years of Ypungkin will likely not be much different than McAuliffe in that regard.
Lady, if what you say is real and you’re not just some R trying to trick people here, then I’m sorry but you win the stupidity award for that utterly stupid vote.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:34
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:It is a flat lie about the dress code. Pretty sure we will hear more lies from FSPC before Tuesday.
Dress Code
FCPS respects students’ right to express themselves in the way they dress. It is important, however, that their appearance is tasteful and appropriate for a K-12 school setting. Discussion about dress code violations shall be held privately and maintain the dignity of the student.
Clothing and accessories should not:
Display vulgar, discriminatory, or obscene language or images
Promote illegal or violent conduct
Contain threats or gang symbols
Promote the unlawful use of weapons, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, or drug paraphernalia
Expose private parts or show an excessive amount of bare skin (see-through clothing)
Contain studs or chain belts
Include hats or other head coverings unless worn for significant religious, cultural, or medical purpose
School administration may reach out to a student’s family if clarification is needed regarding the purpose of a head covering.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:34
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:It is a flat lie about the dress code. Pretty sure we will hear more lies from FSPC before Tuesday.
Dress Code
FCPS respects students’ right to express themselves in the way they dress. It is important, however, that their appearance is tasteful and appropriate for a K-12 school setting. Discussion about dress code violations shall be held privately and maintain the dignity of the student.
Clothing and accessories should not:
Display vulgar, discriminatory, or obscene language or images
Promote illegal or violent conduct
Contain threats or gang symbols
Promote the unlawful use of weapons, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, or drug paraphernalia
Expose private parts or show an excessive amount of bare skin (see-through clothing)
Contain studs or chain belts
Include hats or other head coverings unless worn for significant religious, cultural, or medical purpose
School administration may reach out to a student’s family if clarification is needed regarding the purpose of a head covering.
I don’t know what the rules are for FSPC. Here’s the FCPS Reg.
https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/C63G2V41BE7D/$file/R2109.pdf
At the bottom, it incorporates the FCPS dress code reg by reference.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:30
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
That’s not important
Make sure your kid is mask up on Tuesday
My kid is always masked. And will remain so whether it’s voluntary or mandatory. Largely because she doesn’t want two weeks of isolation during 2nd semester senior year.
Who are you to decide that I am not worthy of learning about info Brabrand referred to in a blast to 200,000 email addresses. If you want people to talk, the best way to make it happen is say: something big and secret happened but I’m not saying what.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:18
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
It is a flat lie about the dress code. Pretty sure we will hear more lies from FSPC before Tuesday.
Dress Code
FCPS respects students’ right to express themselves in the way they dress. It is important, however, that their appearance is tasteful and appropriate for a K-12 school setting. Discussion about dress code violations shall be held privately and maintain the dignity of the student.
Clothing and accessories should not:
Display vulgar, discriminatory, or obscene language or images
Promote illegal or violent conduct
Contain threats or gang symbols
Promote the unlawful use of weapons, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, or drug paraphernalia
Expose private parts or show an excessive amount of bare skin (see-through clothing)
Contain studs or chain belts
Include hats or other head coverings unless worn for significant religious, cultural, or medical purpose
School administration may reach out to a student’s family if clarification is needed regarding the purpose of a head covering.
Dress Code
FCPS respects students’ right to express themselves in the way they dress. It is important, however, that their appearance is tasteful and appropriate for a K-12 school setting. Discussion about dress code violations shall be held privately and maintain the dignity of the student.
Clothing and accessories should not:
Display vulgar, discriminatory, or obscene language or images
Promote illegal or violent conduct
Contain threats or gang symbols
Promote the unlawful use of weapons, alcohol, tobacco, drugs, or drug paraphernalia
Expose private parts or show an excessive amount of bare skin (see-through clothing)
Contain studs or chain belts
Include hats or other head coverings unless worn for significant religious, cultural, or medical purpose
School administration may reach out to a student’s family if clarification is needed regarding the purpose of a head covering.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:05
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
That’s not important
Make sure your kid is mask up on Tuesday
Ah I see. “Don’t question your betters, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:05
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
That’s not important
Make sure your kid is mask up on Tuesday
Lol
It’s part of the dress code the letter said.
face veils now a religious requirement in Fcps (since the ineffective cloth masks are accepted), but at least it’s gender neutral
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:05
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
I was just coming on here to ask the same. What’s up with FCPS’s latest word salad?
Anonymous
01/21/2022 19:01
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
That’s not important
Make sure your kid is mask up on Tuesday
Anonymous
01/21/2022 18:50
Subject: If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anyone want to provide some clarification on the email Brabrand just sent out. “We are aware of internal communications about our mask regulation being shared out of context”.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
What does that mean? Can anyone provide the back story?
Brabrand is such a crappy communicator. And he never found a fire that he didn’t pour gasoline on.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 18:44
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.
Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?
It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.
How does the executive order conflict with VA law?
It’s up for debate.
Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.
That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.
https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6
I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?
The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.
I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.
Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.
PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.
Not having sports/activities is more practicable than making everyone wear masks.
That part.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 18:39
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.
Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?
I'd be interested how Younkin's orders fly in the face of the FEDERAL disability laws, which apply in schools. Health compromised kids have a right to be protected in public schools. They are not receiving full protection if others are allowed to parade through the halls unmasked, coughing and gagging on their peers. While that also holds true in "normal" times, I admit. A cold is not the same as a various that has mutated at least 3 times in 2 years and killed, over 3 quarters of a million AMericans.
They are if the kids who are compromised wear masks. This is the issue…isn’t it. If your child is disabled through compromise, then mask up. Double. Triple. I am very sympathetic to that. The argument, though sympathetic, is nonsensical and a straw man. Nobody gets bullied for wearing a mask, BUT the opposite is clearly true.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 18:24
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.
Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?
It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.
How does the executive order conflict with VA law?
It’s up for debate.
Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.
That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.
https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6
I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?
The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.
They have other recommendations that FCPS isn't following. Why some and not others?
Well honestly that’s where the legal challenges are going to come in. No way of telling how this will turn out this school year, but my suspicion is FCPS and other districts will try to “run out the clock” on this school year with mandatory masks.
+1, it’s a waiting (stall) game at this point.
Anonymous
01/21/2022 18:03
Subject: Re:If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.
Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?
It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.
How does the executive order conflict with VA law?
It’s up for debate.
Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.
That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.
https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6
I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?
The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.
They have other recommendations that FCPS isn't following. Why some and not others?
Well honestly that’s where the legal challenges are going to come in. No way of telling how this will turn out this school year, but my suspicion is FCPS and other districts will try to “run out the clock” on this school year with mandatory masks.