Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 20:42     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
CONFIRMED just look at jersey numbers, 25 players can been seen on field and team bench on video at NAL.


A middie for sure is from 2025. Wow!


I checked out the video you mentioned. Impossible to tell who is who. But if so say so I guess you know more than me. By the way, what is the point of this discussion. What is your agenda?


His obvious “agenda” is to say that cheating is wrong. What is your agenda that you have a problem with that? Are you a MadLax parent who is coming into this thread to defend cheating so your team doesn’t look as bad “because everybody does it”?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 19:11     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
CONFIRMED just look at jersey numbers, 25 players can been seen on field and team bench on video at NAL.


A middie for sure is from 2025. Wow!


I checked out the video you mentioned. Impossible to tell who is who. But if so say so I guess you know more than me. By the way, what is the point of this discussion. What is your agenda?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 18:19     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
CONFIRMED just look at jersey numbers, 25 players can been seen on field and team bench on video at NAL.

You have issues
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 18:17     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
CONFIRMED just look at jersey numbers, 25 players can been seen on field and team bench on video at NAL.


A middie for sure is from 2025. Wow!
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 17:08     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
CONFIRMED just look at jersey numbers, 25 players can been seen on field and team bench on video at NAL.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 17:06     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
If somebody wanted to watch film of a 10-0 game from two weekends ago, how would they know the class year of all the players on the field? And, how would they know if the players intend to repeat 8th grade in the fall?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 16:16     Subject: Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
You can go the video app twitch and see a recording of the game with 2025s playing on the 2026 team for NAL. Checkout commonwealthlax for yourself and dial up Tigers game. VLC parent videos all games. Not going to blame 2025 kids for playing and getting extra reps.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 15:52     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?


(shrug) No, definitely VLC. But I saw it happen.

I also saw some 2026s sub in for 2025s at a HoCo game, so there's that. Though most consider "playing up" to be no big deal.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 15:19     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son is on the 2026 team and I did not see any 2025's playing. I presume the prior post is from the 2025 anti VLC Dad. Please find a new hobby sir!


A number of 25 players were asked beforehand if they'd play for 26 at NAL. Some refused, some said yes. Right before the tournament, VLC sent a request for volunteers to the entire 25 team to play for 26. I know for a fact that some 25 players did play for 26 at NAL. Maybe you just didn't notice them because it's hard to recognize kids when they have helmets on.

It has even occurred at HoCo that some 25s played for 26 when 26 was short.

I was there, I saw it.


This is crazy (if true...I have no idea). Why didn't they just ask for volunteers from the 2027 team so they could stay on-age?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 15:16     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
You almost sounded credible until you said that kids played down in HoCo. Never happened. Maybe your are confusing VLC with MadLax and Cavalier?
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 14:49     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:My son is on the 2026 team and I did not see any 2025's playing. I presume the prior post is from the 2025 anti VLC Dad. Please find a new hobby sir!


A number of 25 players were asked beforehand if they'd play for 26 at NAL. Some refused, some said yes. Right before the tournament, VLC sent a request for volunteers to the entire 25 team to play for 26. I know for a fact that some 25 players did play for 26 at NAL. Maybe you just didn't notice them because it's hard to recognize kids when they have helmets on.

It has even occurred at HoCo that some 25s played for 26 when 26 was short.

I was there, I saw it.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 13:39     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fair observations, but that may be changing. MadLax has its own issues in the 2025 to 2027 classes. If VLC does not have pickups on all three teams, it will be a missed opportunity. Let's see what happens.


What are the issues with the ML 2025-2027 teams?


The latest issue is that 2027 has a parent coach making questionable personnel decisions. Plus the usual MadLax stuff: (1) oversize rosters; (2) no coaching of fundamentals or player development; (3) bringing in re-classed and outside players, pushing existing players to the bench or DMV for certain tournaments. These factors always cause a few players on the middle or bottom of the roster to leave MadLax, which is fine, but this coming tryout cycle may involve some top players leaving as well for VLC, NL, or DCE.

Those are all the characteristics of a top team
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 13:27     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fair observations, but that may be changing. MadLax has its own issues in the 2025 to 2027 classes. If VLC does not have pickups on all three teams, it will be a missed opportunity. Let's see what happens.


What are the issues with the ML 2025-2027 teams?


The latest issue is that 2027 has a parent coach making questionable personnel decisions. Plus the usual MadLax stuff: (1) oversize rosters; (2) no coaching of fundamentals or player development; (3) bringing in re-classed and outside players, pushing existing players to the bench or DMV for certain tournaments. These factors always cause a few players on the middle or bottom of the roster to leave MadLax, which is fine, but this coming tryout cycle may involve some top players leaving as well for VLC, NL, or DCE.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 13:12     Subject: Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Anonymous wrote:The only time I have seen VLC do this is the upper HS levels to showcase. All teams do this. The other teams don’t care but if it provides a chance to get a player seen by colleges. They would never to win a youth tournament. They would use a 27 if a player was needed
times change. so what if vlc coaches, vlc dir totally knew and supported players playing down beforehnd.. if they planned to cheat if thats what you call it. well known beforehand because 26s was short some of their best players. nobody got caught as vlc lost anyway and any punishment would be on their reputation. whatever the situation vlc 26 parents seem to care though
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2021 13:01     Subject: Re:Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?
Boys planning to reclass in the fall often play down the prior summer, either permanently, or on a trial basis. For example MadLax has players on their 2025 and 2026 teams who are already playing down, even though they will not actually enter those classes until the fall. Presumably it is allowed because NAL runs a tight ship and had no issue with the MadLax players.