I really am not loving this show anymore. Watched last night out of desperation to watch something and my takeaways are-

Do not like Teddi, she tries to come off so in control and so unaffected but meantime, she has really stepped up her fashion game and clearly IS affected, her sitting next to Erika proves she is a suckup

Erika, I feel sorry for. Does she not see how RIDICULOUS she looks? I mean really! Just like a lost puppy dog trying to do anything to stay relevant and young. Seeing her is her silly "get ups" and in that cheesy theater for an interview made realize she will not say no to any opportunity. Her outbursts are BIZARRE and reflect a lot of inner turmoil going on for her to last out like she does make me think she is bipolar for sure

I find Lisa R. the most relatable and hysterically funny, she is always spot on and love someone who can laugh at themselves

I do like Lisa and do like Kyle

Neutral on Camille

^^I’m so glad Eileen is gone! So boring and tacky.

Anonymous wrote:The Erika-Dorit alliance is perfect. They are an excellent pairing - both super pretentious (by far the most pretentious on this show and that is saying a lot), both don't want anyone delving too deeply into their background, both very much newly created personas.

Likewise it makes sense that LVP would like Teddi - LVP likes to be connected to important people and Teddy, as the daughter of a famous musician, is totally LVP's type. Plus, LVP likes good manners and people who seems t be more upper crust. Teddi, while not true upper crust is close enough for that world and she is certainly well-behaved/well mannered. She is more refined than Erika or Dorit for certain. Teddi has a much more similar style to LVP and Kyle. Rinna is kind of her own person who I think works with anyone or no-one depending on her mood that day. I like Rinna though and think she makes more sense with the Teddi/LVP/Kyle group.

Agree. One grouping I don't get is Eileen-Erika-Lisa R. I mean, Lisa R. and Eileen, sure - but Erika? It seems like Erika absolutely reveres Eileen. Probably because Eileen is completely herself and also accomplished, beautiful, and classy. I think Eileen is the one person who could tell Erika what's what. I remember when Erika (barely) apologized for her vicious attack on Eileen, and Eileen acted like it was all ok, no worries, etc. I wish she was still on the show so she could have seen Erika light into Teddi and call her out on her bad behavior. We need Eileen back. She tells it like it is.

Anonymous wrote:I can see myself taking exception to Teddi saying 'you are pretending to not remember...' because it is basically calling you a liar. But if you don't like it, either don't deny that you may have said it, or remember what you said. I can see saying "don't say I pretended" but then I'd let it go.

I wouldn't have followed her out/chased her down like Dorit and Lisa. I think it was way more needy/clingy of Dorit to chase her out and insist on making her keep talking. It felt like "I want to be mean to you... but also be your savior." weird.

I don't know why Teddi got so upset, other than it is maddening that these women are all frenemies and need to own it. It would bother a straightshooter like Teddi, because she wants to 'fix' them by making them more accountable. Hint: they will not be more accountable.

I've been in groups like that with weird history/interactions; when I realize what time it is, I listen superficially and say NOTHING about ANYONE, and repeat NOTHING because that is currency with a frenemy group like this. I don't buy into their squabbles or borrow drama. Teddi will learn if she stays active with the group.

I don't think Erika is jealous/has a chip on her shoulder. I think she knows who she is and that she's no John Mellencamp, nor would she want to be. I think she repeats herself too much when peeved and cuts people off fast when she thinks they will cut her off- symptom of being hurt early/often/in her life. I think she's thrilled to be able to do what she does- I don't think she thinks she's all that talented/awesome but she has hustle and is proud of that.

I was surprised no one drew a parallel between Dorit (running to Erika immediately when Kyle/others said it was weird Erika left the beachhouse early) and Teddi (telling others what was said about them). They did the same thing- only difference is Teddi stewed on it for a couple months- not really any better or worse/she was still feeling out the group to understand the dynamics.

I wasn't feeling Kyle's new home. WTF wants to live in the valley, especially Encino?? It was not a move up.

I actually did notice this too and was waiting for Teddi to call Dorit out on the hypocrisy of her tattletale-ing at the beach house but then being offended at Teddi doing roughly the same thing. I actually was flabbergasted when Dorit told Erika (at the beach house) that Kyle had been talking about her. So incredibly unnecessary.

Honestly, the things these women argue about are so, so ridiculous. It's like middle school all over again.

Anonymous wrote:Dorito is only getting more unbearable. I'm curious to know what the symbiotic relationship is between PKk and LizaVanerPlump. I guess that means Andi C will make sure she's on this show until the bitter end. I'm also Team Teddii. I used to love Erickka but the last two years she has become the most shallow of the shallow. It is telling that her best friend is a man who she pays to be her friend and his entire life is focused on her. She has been horrible to people I would expect her to be most comfortable with. Teddiii tells the truth and Erickka never faces the truth.

It's amazing to me that the person who seemed the most clearly narcissistic is now the voice of reason, Cameell G.

Thanks for letting me add my thoughts,
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Aside from your bizarre spellings, I agree with all of the above.

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Anonymous wrote:I was drooling over Kyle’s new house last night and then I read that she had about a million dollars of jewelry stolen around Christmas when they were in Aspen. Bummer.

Her new house is absolutely gorgeous. I've never found any of the other housewive's homes pretty - so ostentatious and "striving." But Kyle's house is the classic, gorgeous home I've always wanted. $8 mil???? Holy smokes.

I like the new house too. Shame about the break-in. A faulty security system alarm panel?? Anyone else think that sounds like an inside job? Hope not. I can't believe they don't test those things though.

Anonymous wrote:Love Kyle's new house!

Erika needs to chill. I can see where she wouldn't like Teddi doubting her/calling her a liar, but wow. Over-the-top. The punishment did not fit the crime.

I generally don't like Dorit, and there were some things about the argument that were ridiculous Dorit behavior, but it was nice that she reached out to Teddi even a bit after that exchange. That's something you can work from. Erika's dismissal was not.

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Erika pulled another over-dramatic tantrum like the one in Hong Kong, directed at Eileen. She can be unnecessarily vicious and I'm sick of it. Someone needs to school her the way she schooled Teddi. Do any of them have the guts to do so?

I wanted to tell Teddi, "Stop nodding your head and looking like you're going to cry - man up and give Erika a taste of her own medicine!" Good grief. Teddi seems nice enough, but she's really got to stop this goody two shoes act where she feels she "has" to tell everyone what's been said about them. Just let it go! Honestly, it causes more trouble than it's worth.

Anonymous wrote:I was drooling over Kyle’s new house last night and then I read that she had about a million dollars of jewelry stolen around Christmas when they were in Aspen. Bummer.

Her new house is absolutely gorgeous. I've never found any of the other housewive's homes pretty - so ostentatious and "striving." But Kyle's house is the classic, gorgeous home I've always wanted. $8 mil???? Holy smokes.

The Erika-Dorit alliance is perfect. They are an excellent pairing - both super pretentious (by far the most pretentious on this show and that is saying a lot), both don't want anyone delving too deeply into their background, both very much newly created personas.

Likewise it makes sense that LVP would like Teddi - LVP likes to be connected to important people and Teddy, as the daughter of a famous musician, is totally LVP's type. Plus, LVP likes good manners and people who seems t be more upper crust. Teddi, while not true upper crust is close enough for that world and she is certainly well-behaved/well mannered. She is more refined than Erika or Dorit for certain. Teddi has a much more similar style to LVP and Kyle. Rinna is kind of her own person who I think works with anyone or no-one depending on her mood that day. I like Rinna though and think she makes more sense with the Teddi/LVP/Kyle group.

Anonymous wrote:I think Teddi bringing up something that happened 3 months prior was ridiculous. As an accountability coach, doesn't she believe that people change, grow, move on. That's seems to be what happened with Dorit and Rinna. I do feel bad the way Erika snapped at her. She has a problem with her for some reason. She made her feel uncomfortable in Vegas, at Teddis house and then the other night. Not cool and I generally like Erika. But preying on someone like Teddi is not cool.

I read Teddi's blog and agree with her explanation. She shouldn't have said anything but she did because she felt like a fake and a fraud as Lisa Rinna was going on about how she and Dorit got along so well and had put the past behind them in Vegas. Lisa R missed much of the filming and Dorit (and PK) had actively trashed Lisa R and called her mentally ill, etc. Dorit has been stirring up sh*t all season long at events Lisa R wasn't able to attend. I can understand why Teddi felt the need to come clean. She likes Lisa R and was trying to make sure she had all the information and Teddi doesn't trust Dorit because Dorit has shown herself to be untrustworthy. If Dorit wasn't going after Teddi and maligning Kyle and LVP, she would probably be going after Lisa R and Erica.

I can see myself taking exception to Teddi saying 'you are pretending to not remember...' because it is basically calling you a liar. But if you don't like it, either don't deny that you may have said it, or remember what you said. I can see saying "don't say I pretended" but then I'd let it go.

I wouldn't have followed her out/chased her down like Dorit and Lisa. I think it was way more needy/clingy of Dorit to chase her out and insist on making her keep talking. It felt like "I want to be mean to you... but also be your savior." weird.

I don't know why Teddi got so upset, other than it is maddening that these women are all frenemies and need to own it. It would bother a straightshooter like Teddi, because she wants to 'fix' them by making them more accountable. Hint: they will not be more accountable.

I've been in groups like that with weird history/interactions; when I realize what time it is, I listen superficially and say NOTHING about ANYONE, and repeat NOTHING because that is currency with a frenemy group like this. I don't buy into their squabbles or borrow drama. Teddi will learn if she stays active with the group.

I don't think Erika is jealous/has a chip on her shoulder. I think she knows who she is and that she's no John Mellencamp, nor would she want to be. I think she repeats herself too much when peeved and cuts people off fast when she thinks they will cut her off- symptom of being hurt early/often/in her life. I think she's thrilled to be able to do what she does- I don't think she thinks she's all that talented/awesome but she has hustle and is proud of that.

I was surprised no one drew a parallel between Dorit (running to Erika immediately when Kyle/others said it was weird Erika left the beachhouse early) and Teddi (telling others what was said about them). They did the same thing- only difference is Teddi stewed on it for a couple months- not really any better or worse/she was still feeling out the group to understand the dynamics.

I wasn't feeling Kyle's new home. WTF wants to live in the valley, especially Encino?? It was not a move up.

What must it be like to be a vocal performer but to know that you can't really sing. She can't. She's is a walking ball of insecurities and is really a mean girl at heart. She tends to attack the weak and suck up to the more powerful. Isn't that the definition of a bully?

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teddi bringing up something that happened 3 months prior was ridiculous. As an accountability coach, doesn't she believe that people change, grow, move on. That's seems to be what happened with Dorit and Rinna. I do feel bad the way Erika snapped at her. She has a problem with her for some reason. She made her feel uncomfortable in Vegas, at Teddis house and then the other night. Not cool and I generally like Erika. But preying on someone like Teddi is not cool.

I think Erika has a chip on her shoulder around Teddi because someone introduced her as Mellencamp's daughter and she is worried that she's judged as not a "real" musician or rock star or performer or what-have-you in comparison. It's not fair but I think that Erika has a lot of chips on her shoulder in general and having exponentially more wealth than most of these incredibly materialistic women makes it easier for her to act normally, until she enters a situation where she's afraid she'll be judged on other merits (this thing with Teddi; the "I know I'm the idiot in this room" performance at the publishing office).

I also generally like Erika, but she is not at her best when her temper is up -- the thing with losing her shit at Eileen about her son being a cop last year comes to mind.

I think Erika has a chip on her shoulder period and Teddi is exactly the one (unintentionally) to make her feel uncomfortably aware of who she really is - a bought and paid for white-trash trophy wife. Teddi was born to a famous musician, born to money, fame, celebrity and she is very natural and comfortable with herself. Teddi has no pretensions. Erika is nothing but pretensions. Its a fascinating juxtaposition to watch but I do feel for Teddi. She doesn't mean to make Erika so aware of her trashiness and low class origins.

Agreed. It takes a "team" and a glam squad to make Erika a performer--she's a fine dancer, but not a great one; she can hit a note, but she has a nasally voice; she probably couldn't write a song (or a book) to save her life. Anyone who can hit a note can be packaged and produced enough to sound as good as Erika Jayne. Anyone who is remotely flexible, has rhythm and is in shape can be glam squadded up to star in that kind of video. I'm not saying she's not accomplished--she pursued her dreams, and she...essentially...bought them. And good for her! Not everyone can do what she did, that's a fact. But it didn't take much talent.

Here's what John Mellencamp needs to be a performer: a guitar and a mic. That's true talent, and true genius.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teddi bringing up something that happened 3 months prior was ridiculous. As an accountability coach, doesn't she believe that people change, grow, move on. That's seems to be what happened with Dorit and Rinna. I do feel bad the way Erika snapped at her. She has a problem with her for some reason. She made her feel uncomfortable in Vegas, at Teddis house and then the other night. Not cool and I generally like Erika. But preying on someone like Teddi is not cool.

I think Erika has a chip on her shoulder around Teddi because someone introduced her as Mellencamp's daughter and she is worried that she's judged as not a "real" musician or rock star or performer or what-have-you in comparison. It's not fair but I think that Erika has a lot of chips on her shoulder in general and having exponentially more wealth than most of these incredibly materialistic women makes it easier for her to act normally, until she enters a situation where she's afraid she'll be judged on other merits (this thing with Teddi; the "I know I'm the idiot in this room" performance at the publishing office).

I also generally like Erika, but she is not at her best when her temper is up -- the thing with losing her shit at Eileen about her son being a cop last year comes to mind.

I think Erika has a chip on her shoulder period and Teddi is exactly the one (unintentionally) to make her feel uncomfortably aware of who she really is - a bought and paid for white-trash trophy wife. Teddi was born to a famous musician, born to money, fame, celebrity and she is very natural and comfortable with herself. Teddi has no pretensions. Erika is nothing but pretensions. Its a fascinating juxtaposition to watch but I do feel for Teddi. She doesn't mean to make Erika so aware of her trashiness and low class origins.

Anonymous wrote:I think Teddi bringing up something that happened 3 months prior was ridiculous. As an accountability coach, doesn't she believe that people change, grow, move on. That's seems to be what happened with Dorit and Rinna. I do feel bad the way Erika snapped at her. She has a problem with her for some reason. She made her feel uncomfortable in Vegas, at Teddis house and then the other night. Not cool and I generally like Erika. But preying on someone like Teddi is not cool.

I think Erika has a chip on her shoulder around Teddi because someone introduced her as Mellencamp's daughter and she is worried that she's judged as not a "real" musician or rock star or performer or what-have-you in comparison. It's not fair but I think that Erika has a lot of chips on her shoulder in general and having exponentially more wealth than most of these incredibly materialistic women makes it easier for her to act normally, until she enters a situation where she's afraid she'll be judged on other merits (this thing with Teddi; the "I know I'm the idiot in this room" performance at the publishing office).

I also generally like Erika, but she is not at her best when her temper is up -- the thing with losing her shit at Eileen about her son being a cop last year comes to mind.