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Anonymous wrote:He had been in the house many times. All intruder ms bring flashlights and it could be what JB was hit with.
Google Bill McReynolds letter daily camera. Similarities to the ransom note. I find it odd that he used the word scrutiny

I find it odd he wrote in Patsy's handwriting and had knowledge of information known only to the family like the very specific amount of John Ramsey's bonus.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the talk about Santa, were there any footprints in the room where she was found, leading up to it or or under that window? In the kitchen near the pineapple ? Or in her room? The ground was wet, correct?

Yes in the room where she was found there was a high tech boot print.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the talk about Santa, were there any footprints in the room where she was found, leading up to it or or under that window? In the kitchen near the pineapple ? Or in her room? The ground was wet, correct?

Yes in the room where she was found there was a high tech boot print.

Anonymous wrote:With all the talk about Santa, were there any footprints in the room where she was found, leading up to it or or under that window? In the kitchen near the pineapple ? Or in her room? The ground was wet, correct?

Anonymous wrote:Have the older children ever been interviewed?

Anonymous wrote:That little wine cellar and the basement in general did not have a bunch of people in and out of it. If the Santa dude with long white beard and hair, red Santa suit, etc had spent any time down there assaulting JonBenet there would have been some evidence of that.

Also, if Patsy had help preparing for that party you can about bet that she also had help with clean up after the party. So at least the main level of the house could very well have been vacuumed, tables wiped down, kitchen cleaned, after that party on the 23rd. And the killer spent time on that level of the house, too - writing the ransom note, preparing the "tea party", possibly smacking JonBenet over the head with a flashlight. And not a white hair or red thread found. No foreign fingerprints on the pen that wrote the ransom note. Nothing on the notepad...

It's too crazy that those parents didn't hear a thing. No one heard running water (Santa would have had to run water to wipe JonBenet down). No one heard footsteps on the stairs and doors opening and closing throughout the house.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.

I agree with you it could have been Santa. He could have been alone or had an accomplice- his wife, his son Jesse, Michael Hegloth, or another unknown peodophile. I find it odd that his daughter and her friend were kidnapped and the friend sexually assulted 12/26 twenty-two years before and his daughter was not harmed in anyway. That sounds like someone who had a fixation with the friend but didn't want their own daughter harmed. When he was first interviewed by police he didn't even mention this. When police found out about it he said he forgot because it was so long ago. I don't think you would ever forget that. I think it is odd that the police didn't find any of his beard hairs from when he was there on 12/23. The last day the housekeeper was at the house was 12/23 helping with the party. The house would not have been vacuumed after that party. The police if they had been doing their job would have found hair/Dna of him in that house from 12/23. That shows how poor the whole crime scene was taken care of. There would be no fingerprints or blood from the suspect if they wore gloves and did not bleed. Also they thought the body had been wiped down. The killer could have brought a lint brush and used wet towels or baby wipes if he was worried about leaving anything behind. Santa's handwriting was never eliminated either. Santa was probate he only one of all the suspects that would write a three page ransom note. That was the strangest clue from the crime scene. He may have disguised his writing and intent but he could not disguise his rambling ego to go on and on.The police and press were fixated on the Ramseys so the killer was never caught.

This might make more sense if the police didn't actually spend a lot of time investigating him, including collecting his fingerprints and dna which were not found at the crime scene or match the dna present.

No one other than the Ramsey's were really investigated that well. And if the police did actually do a good job investigating Santa than surely they would've said, "ok, his DNA did not match what we found in the basement but we did match it upstairs in the living room or in the kitchen or JB's bedroom. Surely there had to be a DNA match of Santa somewhere in the house given that he was just there, but they couldn't even say that.

I just keep going back to how odd it was for Santa to show up in the Today show audience shortly after the murder. Ask any criminal profiler and they would tell you how common this is among murderers. To go back to the scene of the crime, to collect stories about the crime or find another way to bask in the limelight of the crime, which is exactly what Santa was doing on the Today Show. Why else would he be there?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.

I agree with you it could have been Santa. He could have been alone or had an accomplice- his wife, his son Jesse, Michael Hegloth, or another unknown peodophile. I find it odd that his daughter and her friend were kidnapped and the friend sexually assulted 12/26 twenty-two years before and his daughter was not harmed in anyway. That sounds like someone who had a fixation with the friend but didn't want their own daughter harmed. When he was first interviewed by police he didn't even mention this. When police found out about it he said he forgot because it was so long ago. I don't think you would ever forget that. I think it is odd that the police didn't find any of his beard hairs from when he was there on 12/23. The last day the housekeeper was at the house was 12/23 helping with the party. The house would not have been vacuumed after that party. The police if they had been doing their job would have found hair/Dna of him in that house from 12/23. That shows how poor the whole crime scene was taken care of. There would be no fingerprints or blood from the suspect if they wore gloves and did not bleed. Also they thought the body had been wiped down. The killer could have brought a lint brush and used wet towels or baby wipes if he was worried about leaving anything behind. Santa's handwriting was never eliminated either. Santa was probate he only one of all the suspects that would write a three page ransom note. That was the strangest clue from the crime scene. He may have disguised his writing and intent but he could not disguise his rambling ego to go on and on.The police and press were fixated on the Ramseys so the killer was never caught.

This might make more sense if the police didn't actually spend a lot of time investigating him, including collecting his fingerprints and dna which were not found at the crime scene or match the dna present.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

I didn't follow the case closely when it happened - but at the time I figured it was the weird pageant mom. Now that I see that actually the media really built that up - and that she was actually a fairly normal kid with a few pageants a year - I think most of the evidence points to Santa. I think he knew the Ramsey's were going to be at a party for hours, got into the house that he knew well, and took his sweet time writing that ransom note to throw off police (not because he actually wanted money). He has a pattern of going on and on...in the note, at the funeral, and later in interviews when he should have just shut up. Maybe his wife was involved, I don't know. The ransom note seemed like him and his wife. Seemed like theater. Patsy didn't strike me as someone who watched Dirty Harry and Speed a lot.

Big red flag that he begged Patsy to have the party on the premise that some filmmaker/photographer was going to be there and the guy wasn't there? It was odd he wanted her to have the party so much and it turned out he wanted it under false pretenses. Clearly he knew the house well. Clearly he had an unhealthy fixation with JB. That whole secret thing was a huge red flag too.

As for the Ramsey's - the only things that add up to them doing it come from too many competing theories. Like it was premeditated (they ordered the American Girl so they would have a back up, or they fed her pineapple for some reason) which goes against the theory that Patsy was outraged she had had an accident, hit her, then had to elaborately stage her death.

The tombstone saying Dec. 25 to me was not odd either. They were religious so that date probably made more sense to them. And like others have said, they probably wanted to think of her last day of life as the last day they spent together, not the horrific incidents of December 26.

I'm pretty cynical - as are a lot of people. The whole, "people don't want to believe parents could do such a thing" doesn't ring true. As others have said, parents DO do this kind of thing, but not in such a bizarre way.

I agree with you it could have been Santa. He could have been alone or had an accomplice- his wife, his son Jesse, Michael Hegloth, or another unknown peodophile. I find it odd that his daughter and her friend were kidnapped and the friend sexually assulted 12/26 twenty-two years before and his daughter was not harmed in anyway. That sounds like someone who had a fixation with the friend but didn't want their own daughter harmed. When he was first interviewed by police he didn't even mention this. When police found out about it he said he forgot because it was so long ago. I don't think you would ever forget that. I think it is odd that the police didn't find any of his beard hairs from when he was there on 12/23. The last day the housekeeper was at the house was 12/23 helping with the party. The house would not have been vacuumed after that party. The police if they had been doing their job would have found hair/Dna of him in that house from 12/23. That shows how poor the whole crime scene was taken care of. There would be no fingerprints or blood from the suspect if they wore gloves and did not bleed. Also they thought the body had been wiped down. The killer could have brought a lint brush and used wet towels or baby wipes if he was worried about leaving anything behind. Santa's handwriting was never eliminated either. Santa was probate he only one of all the suspects that would write a three page ransom note. That was the strangest clue from the crime scene. He may have disguised his writing and intent but he could not disguise his rambling ego to go on and on.The police and press were fixated on the Ramseys so the killer was never caught.