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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it, (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.

If she left out the wet line it would work. Its one of the better songs. Imo fate of ophelia, actually romantic, ruin the fruendship, and maybe cancelled are the only decent songs, but the wet line nearly ruins actually romantic completely. Why do it. Wood nearly ruins the album c9mpletely. Why do it? I feel like there is some self sabatage going on. Like she wants to be popular but low key hates her fans and what she has to do to be popular with her fans. She really is a weirdo (terminal uniqueness) but is beloved for being the opposit: the gooofy, studious girl next door who lands the movie star or football king. She isnt basic but is beloved for being basic and knows it - read the poem about her fans at eras. Low key hates her fans and cant help herself in this album to see how far she can push them away without losing them.. Or wood is a sister song to the smallest man and shows shes still hung up on matty.

Yeah. I get this feeling in so many of her songs. I go bop along and then suddenly there is a line that is just off and then the whole song crumbles apart for me. Like “I want to kill her” or in love story the way her talks about her “daddy” telling her what to do. There is always a line I have to reckon with as being too power hungry or upholding misogynistic principles. Sometimes I can overlook it and enjoy the song sometimes it gives me the ick.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it, (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.

If she left out the wet line it would work. Its one of the better songs. Imo fate of ophelia, actually romantic, ruin the fruendship, and maybe cancelled are the only decent songs, but the wet line nearly ruins actually romantic completely. Why do it. Wood nearly ruins the album c9mpletely. Why do it? I feel like there is some self sabatage going on. Like she wants to be popular but low key hates her fans and what she has to do to be popular with her fans. She really is a weirdo (terminal uniqueness) but is beloved for being the opposit: the gooofy, studious girl next door who lands the movie star or football king. She isnt basic but is beloved for being basic and knows it - read the poem about her fans at eras. Low key hates her fans and cant help herself in this album to see how far she can push them away without losing them.. Or wood is a sister song to the smallest man and shows shes still hung up on matty.

Article states how her marketing is overtaking the music.

“The music video for Swift’s “The Fate of Ophelia,” in which the star steps out of a Pre-Raphaelite painting and proceeds to clip through space and time, taking on different guises along the way, is meant to be a confident visual statement of the Swift franchise’s multiversal power — the kind that lets her conjure and connect endless versions of reality through the sheer force of her stardom. And yet it reads more like an admission of the record’s thinness, its insubstantiality behind all the lore and secret messages. To achieve its strongest effects, “Showgirl” relies on the listener’s interest in decoding the references to real people and situations the songs may or may not be about. A dig at another pop star; a mention of her fiancé’s podcast! The album feels less like an album, the marketing less like a way to bring that album to its fans. Instead, everything is simply another entry in the Taylor Swift Multiverse, a closed door with nothing behind it, affixed with a promissory note for more content elsewhere.”

—NY Times

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It's so weird that a fan would not listen to them...She released them, so why not listen to how she made the song?

Weird question. I’m a casual fan. I have a life. I enjoy the music, but I don’t go down every Taylor Swift rabbit hole.

So you are suggesting her many fans who interpret her Easter eggs don’t have a life. Okay.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it, (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.

I agree and invite you to Google the many photos of her establishing dominance over others by putting items on their head. She often puts wine glasses and such on people’s heads but she has even stuck five-pound awards on the heads of other singers.

If anyone needs a citation, go google the many photos of her doing this. She never does it with people she considers above her.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.

She trained people to go down rabbit holes and even used that same term “rabbit hole” in an interview.

That’s why she installed orange doors across the world with QR codes that took you to AI-made videos that allowed you to decode a word and all twelve words from the twelve doors turned into a message to buy a pink record from Target.

And you make fun of the FANS for going down the rabbit holes that she has trained them to go down?

Tell your leader to stop making Easter eggs and rabbit holes then.

Interestingly, I listened nonstop for a week and then stopped and haven't gone back. I like it, but I don't enjoy it like the other albums. I guess I'm just not in the mood for it right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Album is rubbish. She is a private equity vassal at this point bleeding her spendthrift fan base dry. They are riding her til the wheels fall off.

Don't forget "astroturfed"!!

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it, (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.

Taylor’s fascination with Elizabeth Taylor continues. In Ready For It: “Burton to this Taylor” - Richard Burton was Elizabeth Taylor’s long-term scandalous on and off lover. Here she sings, “And I can't have fun if I can't have... you”. Sounds awfully similar to “F&ck it if I can’t have him, I might just die, it would make no difference.”

In Ivy, believed to be a Matty song: “your opal eyes are all I wish to see.” From ChatGPT: “Because opals are known for their depth and changing colors, opal eyes symbolize someone who is emotionally complex, elusive, mysterious or otherworldly.” 🤷‍♀️
Opalite aka Travis is the fake/poor man’s opal…….

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It's so weird that a fan would not listen to them...She released them, so why not listen to how she made the song?

What's truly weird is that a self-professed hater would buy the different albums all so that they could listen to her voice memos - don't you think? I haven't bought any of her albums, I simply listen to the songs I like via streaming. And I'd consider myself a fan. How do you explain *your* obsession?

Anonymous wrote:Does she sing live or not??

Interesting take:

Wings of Pegasus from YouTube does an analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8rMNMURShM

Yes, she sings live but she can't sing all the backup parts that she sings on the recordings so they have to have that track behind her while she sings the main part.

Anonymous wrote:Album is rubbish. She is a private equity vassal at this point bleeding her spendthrift fan base dry. They are riding her til the wheels fall off.

Don't forget "astroturfed"!!

Anonymous wrote:OK, maybe I should start listening to 1975. You guys have convinced me. I think MH is pretty gross, but maybe I’ll give him another chance.

I tried but I only like a few of their songs.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him. Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.

You just described yourself. And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.

You keep bringing up her “voice memos.” I have no idea what you’re referencing. But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge!

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother.

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh! I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here. They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about. Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters. It's pretty amusing.