Anonymous wrote:Herndon parents deflecting it all onto the dogs

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Anonymous wrote:When a field is posted no dogs like at sully so you have to walk past the sign with your dog, then it is someone saying the rules don’t apply to me.
When a parent yells at Ref when told not to, same thing
When parents yell at each other cursing they break the law of society
We have rules so people can get along.
There are always people who don’t like the rules or don’t follow them. Dog lover no one cares that your dog wants to say hi. I love dogs. I don’t love your dog and when you tel me he is just friendly I don’t know you or your dog. I don’t walk up to strangers and lick them smell their crotch and then have my wife tell you I’m harmless.
Just admit you are someone who intentionally doesn’t follow t rules. You are who you are. It’s not your dogs fault it’s yours

Not sure what (or who) you are talking about, but I'm the poster who pointed out that leashed dogs are allowed at Fairfax County Parks. I don't take my dog onto the field (inside the fence) at Sully (or anywhere else there is a sign clearly prohibiting dogs). On the walking paths or grassy area outside of the fence at Sully, dogs are fine. That is where my dog and I have watched my kids' games when I've taken him there.

I keep my dog leashed and under control at all times. I do not let him interact with anyone without their consent. I prefer when strangers don't interact with him without my consent either (or let their unwatched kids do so). Most dog owners are the same way.

It seems like you just don't like dogs. Either that or you are one of those obsessively negative people who focus on the minority of bad things and ignore the majority of good things. Either way I feel sorry for you.

This weekend my kid had one game at a school field, one at a county field, and the other at a private venue which does have a no dog policy. So the dog only came to one game. Shockingly, he did not smell anyone's crotch or run onto any fields. He did lick a few hands, but only of people who presented their hands to be licked. He's a cute dog. He thinks everyone in the world exists to be love and be loved, and that's the way he looks at everyone he sees. People smile when they see him. The world needs more smiles.

No need to feel sorry for me or my dog. Your dog may be great. Only now do you clarify and agree that your dog should not be inside fence at Sully. That is the point. Where your dog is allowed do whatever you want. Where your dog is not allowed follow the rule. Rules often have to be made for the worst. If everyone was a good dog or respectful we’d need fewer rules. The rule may bot be necessary for your dog but your dog has to follow it (through your decisions unless your dog can read) because of all the others who have ruined it and caused a rule to be needed.
So consider not trying to make it about me or my dog. It’s not about you or your dog. It’s a rule and you either respect it or you don’t.
And if you are at a game for your kid you are there as a guest and a parent typically and your team agrees to follow the hosting on clubs rules which include no dogs often. People like you just decide to do what you want until challenged then you react like it is the rest of the rule followers that are the problem.

Be a better example for your child and your dog.

WTF are you talking about?

You do realize there is more than one poster on this subject, right?

I am the rule following one.

In fact, I'm so obsessed with following the rules that I actually know what they are. I look them up ahead of time. I look for signs when I arrive, and I actually take the time to stop and read them, just to make sure I'm in compliance.

The OP was about the Dulles Tournament, and complaining how shameful it was that there were "dogs everywhere."

Here are the parks in which the fields for those tournaments were located: https://events.gotsport.com/events/fields.aspx?EventID=84562&FieldID=

Not a single one of them prohibits dogs. Unless the dogs were either (1) unleashed, (2) on the actual fields, or (3) pooping without the owners picking it up, the mere fact that they were "everywhere" doesn't break any rules.


Characterizing behavior as "shameful" even though it is perfectly in compliance with the rules, just because some (not saying you, b/c I don't know which posts were yours vs someone else's - see how that works) don't personally agree with the rules, or don't even bother to find out what the rules actually are - isn't exactly respectful of the rules, now is it?

1. You seem overly impassioned about this.
2. There were dogs within the fence at Sully, some behind goals barking during play - nice for a goalkeeper
3. Any dog owner had to walk past the plates No Dog sign to go inside the fence, I don’t blame the dog unless they can read, but to walk your dog in like that
is an attitude of no shame and no respect, it is shameful
4. You have parsed the OP to say law abiding dog owners are not shameful, the OP noted a series of behaviors and dogs inside the fence was just one
Your attempt to hijack it into a thread about you and your dog shouldn’t be shameful is just obtuse or intentionally deflecting

I guess I can take my cat to a dog park. Or play soccer on it with my friends as the rules don’t prohibit that at FFX Co

You are lucky to be in a county that has dog parks there is even a turf one.

Just stop being obtuse.

If two dogs meet at a field or narrow path and have an altercation, there could be injuries to animals or people. If a pet attacks a person, there is nowhere to go. Several people and pets have been bitten and injured in these circumstances. Well-behaved pets can instigate an incident with a more aggressive animal, and animal behavior experts cannot predict how any two animals will react to each other.

That’s a reason for the rule. Just put it to rest and don’t keep being the guy who says my BMW is very safe and designed to handle speed so I can go fast safely - it’s all about interaction.

Go take your dog for a walk and chill

I think laws prohibiting dogs from public spaces are clearly cruel and unsual punishment for dogs, and completely in contravention of dog rights. Where do you get off with the idea that you should be able to bar another animal from a space just because you are terrified of it, or offended by its smell or whatever other absurd reason you have not to want a dog near you. The dog has every right to be there, and you have every right to avoid the space where the dog is if you want. You do not have the right to ban the dog. What's next? You're going to try and ban birds from flying near your kid's soccer field? Or rabbits? You are absurd!

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Anonymous wrote:When a field is posted no dogs like at sully so you have to walk past the sign with your dog, then it is someone saying the rules don’t apply to me.
When a parent yells at Ref when told not to, same thing
When parents yell at each other cursing they break the law of society
We have rules so people can get along.
There are always people who don’t like the rules or don’t follow them. Dog lover no one cares that your dog wants to say hi. I love dogs. I don’t love your dog and when you tel me he is just friendly I don’t know you or your dog. I don’t walk up to strangers and lick them smell their crotch and then have my wife tell you I’m harmless.
Just admit you are someone who intentionally doesn’t follow t rules. You are who you are. It’s not your dogs fault it’s yours

Not sure what (or who) you are talking about, but I'm the poster who pointed out that leashed dogs are allowed at Fairfax County Parks. I don't take my dog onto the field (inside the fence) at Sully (or anywhere else there is a sign clearly prohibiting dogs). On the walking paths or grassy area outside of the fence at Sully, dogs are fine. That is where my dog and I have watched my kids' games when I've taken him there.

I keep my dog leashed and under control at all times. I do not let him interact with anyone without their consent. I prefer when strangers don't interact with him without my consent either (or let their unwatched kids do so). Most dog owners are the same way.

It seems like you just don't like dogs. Either that or you are one of those obsessively negative people who focus on the minority of bad things and ignore the majority of good things. Either way I feel sorry for you.

This weekend my kid had one game at a school field, one at a county field, and the other at a private venue which does have a no dog policy. So the dog only came to one game. Shockingly, he did not smell anyone's crotch or run onto any fields. He did lick a few hands, but only of people who presented their hands to be licked. He's a cute dog. He thinks everyone in the world exists to be love and be loved, and that's the way he looks at everyone he sees. People smile when they see him. The world needs more smiles.

Some people certainly smile and others are simply being polite. Follow the rules. The next level of tool is the toy dog owner who has to take their dumb dog everywhere they go. I like dogs just fine but I’m never interested in your stupid slobbering dog energy. Whenever you say “oh sorry he is really friendly and just excited” I want to punch you and many others do too.

No. You're the only one who wants to punch someone for owning a dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?

OP.
Yes my OP references dogs all over the place which means at least 5 dogs inside the fence and 1 barking at the players on the field (possibly in a loving way?)

The thread has answered my question Can’t we all just get along.
That is a definitive no.
And it is sad and shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:When a field is posted no dogs like at sully so you have to walk past the sign with your dog, then it is someone saying the rules don’t apply to me.
When a parent yells at Ref when told not to, same thing
When parents yell at each other cursing they break the law of society
We have rules so people can get along.
There are always people who don’t like the rules or don’t follow them. Dog lover no one cares that your dog wants to say hi. I love dogs. I don’t love your dog and when you tel me he is just friendly I don’t know you or your dog. I don’t walk up to strangers and lick them smell their crotch and then have my wife tell you I’m harmless.
Just admit you are someone who intentionally doesn’t follow t rules. You are who you are. It’s not your dogs fault it’s yours

Not sure what (or who) you are talking about, but I'm the poster who pointed out that leashed dogs are allowed at Fairfax County Parks. I don't take my dog onto the field (inside the fence) at Sully (or anywhere else there is a sign clearly prohibiting dogs). On the walking paths or grassy area outside of the fence at Sully, dogs are fine. That is where my dog and I have watched my kids' games when I've taken him there.

I keep my dog leashed and under control at all times. I do not let him interact with anyone without their consent. I prefer when strangers don't interact with him without my consent either (or let their unwatched kids do so). Most dog owners are the same way.

It seems like you just don't like dogs. Either that or you are one of those obsessively negative people who focus on the minority of bad things and ignore the majority of good things. Either way I feel sorry for you.

This weekend my kid had one game at a school field, one at a county field, and the other at a private venue which does have a no dog policy. So the dog only came to one game. Shockingly, he did not smell anyone's crotch or run onto any fields. He did lick a few hands, but only of people who presented their hands to be licked. He's a cute dog. He thinks everyone in the world exists to be love and be loved, and that's the way he looks at everyone he sees. People smile when they see him. The world needs more smiles.

Some people certainly smile and others are simply being polite. Follow the rules. The next level of tool is the toy dog owner who has to take their dumb dog everywhere they go. I like dogs just fine but I’m never interested in your stupid slobbering dog energy. Whenever you say “oh sorry he is really friendly and just excited” I want to punch you and many others do too.

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Anonymous wrote:When a field is posted no dogs like at sully so you have to walk past the sign with your dog, then it is someone saying the rules don’t apply to me.
When a parent yells at Ref when told not to, same thing
When parents yell at each other cursing they break the law of society
We have rules so people can get along.
There are always people who don’t like the rules or don’t follow them. Dog lover no one cares that your dog wants to say hi. I love dogs. I don’t love your dog and when you tel me he is just friendly I don’t know you or your dog. I don’t walk up to strangers and lick them smell their crotch and then have my wife tell you I’m harmless.
Just admit you are someone who intentionally doesn’t follow t rules. You are who you are. It’s not your dogs fault it’s yours

Not sure what (or who) you are talking about, but I'm the poster who pointed out that leashed dogs are allowed at Fairfax County Parks. I don't take my dog onto the field (inside the fence) at Sully (or anywhere else there is a sign clearly prohibiting dogs). On the walking paths or grassy area outside of the fence at Sully, dogs are fine. That is where my dog and I have watched my kids' games when I've taken him there.

I keep my dog leashed and under control at all times. I do not let him interact with anyone without their consent. I prefer when strangers don't interact with him without my consent either (or let their unwatched kids do so). Most dog owners are the same way.

It seems like you just don't like dogs. Either that or you are one of those obsessively negative people who focus on the minority of bad things and ignore the majority of good things. Either way I feel sorry for you.

This weekend my kid had one game at a school field, one at a county field, and the other at a private venue which does have a no dog policy. So the dog only came to one game. Shockingly, he did not smell anyone's crotch or run onto any fields. He did lick a few hands, but only of people who presented their hands to be licked. He's a cute dog. He thinks everyone in the world exists to be love and be loved, and that's the way he looks at everyone he sees. People smile when they see him. The world needs more smiles.

No need to feel sorry for me or my dog. Your dog may be great. Only now do you clarify and agree that your dog should not be inside fence at Sully. That is the point. Where your dog is allowed do whatever you want. Where your dog is not allowed follow the rule. Rules often have to be made for the worst. If everyone was a good dog or respectful we’d need fewer rules. The rule may bot be necessary for your dog but your dog has to follow it (through your decisions unless your dog can read) because of all the others who have ruined it and caused a rule to be needed.
So consider not trying to make it about me or my dog. It’s not about you or your dog. It’s a rule and you either respect it or you don’t.
And if you are at a game for your kid you are there as a guest and a parent typically and your team agrees to follow the hosting on clubs rules which include no dogs often. People like you just decide to do what you want until challenged then you react like it is the rest of the rule followers that are the problem.

Be a better example for your child and your dog.

WTF are you talking about?

You do realize there is more than one poster on this subject, right?

I am the rule following one.

In fact, I'm so obsessed with following the rules that I actually know what they are. I look them up ahead of time. I look for signs when I arrive, and I actually take the time to stop and read them, just to make sure I'm in compliance.

The OP was about the Dulles Tournament, and complaining how shameful it was that there were "dogs everywhere."

Here are the parks in which the fields for those tournaments were located: https://events.gotsport.com/events/fields.aspx?EventID=84562&FieldID=

Not a single one of them prohibits dogs. Unless the dogs were either (1) unleashed, (2) on the actual fields, or (3) pooping without the owners picking it up, the mere fact that they were "everywhere" doesn't break any rules.


Characterizing behavior as "shameful" even though it is perfectly in compliance with the rules, just because some (not saying you, b/c I don't know which posts were yours vs someone else's - see how that works) don't personally agree with the rules, or don't even bother to find out what the rules actually are - isn't exactly respectful of the rules, now is it?

1. You seem overly impassioned about this.
2. There were dogs within the fence at Sully, some behind goals barking during play - nice for a goalkeeper
3. Any dog owner had to walk past the plates No Dog sign to go inside the fence, I don’t blame the dog unless they can read, but to walk your dog in like that
is an attitude of no shame and no respect, it is shameful
4. You have parsed the OP to say law abiding dog owners are not shameful, the OP noted a series of behaviors and dogs inside the fence was just one
Your attempt to hijack it into a thread about you and your dog shouldn’t be shameful is just obtuse or intentionally deflecting

I guess I can take my cat to a dog park. Or play soccer on it with my friends as the rules don’t prohibit that at FFX Co

You are lucky to be in a county that has dog parks there is even a turf one.

Just stop being obtuse.

If two dogs meet at a field or narrow path and have an altercation, there could be injuries to animals or people. If a pet attacks a person, there is nowhere to go. Several people and pets have been bitten and injured in these circumstances. Well-behaved pets can instigate an incident with a more aggressive animal, and animal behavior experts cannot predict how any two animals will react to each other.

That’s a reason for the rule. Just put it to rest and don’t keep being the guy who says my BMW is very safe and designed to handle speed so I can go fast safely - it’s all about interaction.

Go take your dog for a walk and chill

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?

I'm not a dog owner, but what on earth is wrong with someone bringing a dog to a game?

About dogs or pets. No league or park allows them at games or practices. Unfortunately league, tournament and tram officials do a crappy job of enforcing those rules. I have seen matches halted because some dumbass’s dog got loose and is running all over the field.

So what? Obviously not 100% ideal, but surely a dog putting a temporary halt to a kid's soccer game is one of those mildly amusing things that happens from time to time. It should bring a smile to peoples' faces, be dealt with in sconds and the game resumes. Hardly a "hall of shame" event...?

I have three kids in travel soccer and have lost count of how many games I have watched. I have never seen this situation ever. Occasional games interrupted by the weather or by out-of-line parents and coaches, yes. Dogs? Never. I have a hard time believing PP has witnessed multiple matches (plural) where dogs have run on the field. Talk about inventing problems.

+1

i bet the dogs had covid too

Anonymous wrote:When a field is posted no dogs like at sully so you have to walk past the sign with your dog, then it is someone saying the rules don’t apply to me.
When a parent yells at Ref when told not to, same thing
When parents yell at each other cursing they break the law of society
We have rules so people can get along.
There are always people who don’t like the rules or don’t follow them. Dog lover no one cares that your dog wants to say hi. I love dogs. I don’t love your dog and when you tel me he is just friendly I don’t know you or your dog. I don’t walk up to strangers and lick them smell their crotch and then have my wife tell you I’m harmless.
Just admit you are someone who intentionally doesn’t follow t rules. You are who you are. It’s not your dogs fault it’s yours

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?

I'm not a dog owner, but what on earth is wrong with someone bringing a dog to a game?

About dogs or pets. No league or park allows them at games or practices. Unfortunately league, tournament and tram officials do a crappy job of enforcing those rules. I have seen matches halted because some dumbass’s dog got loose and is running all over the field.

So what? Obviously not 100% ideal, but surely a dog putting a temporary halt to a kid's soccer game is one of those mildly amusing things that happens from time to time. It should bring a smile to peoples' faces, be dealt with in sconds and the game resumes. Hardly a "hall of shame" event...?

I have three kids in travel soccer and have lost count of how many games I have watched. I have never seen this situation ever. Occasional games interrupted by the weather or by out-of-line parents and coaches, yes. Dogs? Never. I have a hard time believing PP has witnessed multiple matches (plural) where dogs have run on the field. Talk about inventing problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?

I'm not a dog owner, but what on earth is wrong with someone bringing a dog to a game?

About dogs or pets. No league or park allows them at games or practices. Unfortunately league, tournament and tram officials do a crappy job of enforcing those rules. I have seen matches halted because some dumbass’s dog got loose and is running all over the field.

So what? Obviously not 100% ideal, but surely a dog putting a temporary halt to a kid's soccer game is one of those mildly amusing things that happens from time to time. It should bring a smile to peoples' faces, be dealt with in sconds and the game resumes. Hardly a "hall of shame" event...?

In Fairfax, at least, there are signs prohibiting dogs at every field. So showing up with one makes the owner an entitled a-hole.

+1

I know reading comprehension is tough, but unless it's a school, the signs say that dogs are not permitted ON the athletic fields, not that they are not allowed at the park.

Leashed dogs have always been allowed at all Fairfax County (and FFX City) parks, so taking a dog with you to watch a game is perfectly fine, as long as you do not let it onto the actual field.

So you're staying 15 feet away from the field, right?

PP can't follow simple rules from their club. Their club doesn't allow pets at the fields at all.

You're dumb.

Another poster copied SYA's policy on dogs. SYA is not my club. I have never had anything to do with SYA. Morevoer, their policy just states that they "prefer" no pets, not that pets are not allowed. Again, I know reading is hard.

It's true that pets are prohibited on school grounds, and there are signs at every entrance clearly indicating that. That's why my post above says, "unless it's a school." I do not take my dog to games at school fields, or anywhere else where pets are prohibited.

I do often take my dog to soccer games at Fairfax County Parks, because "he Fairfax County Park Authority has always welcomed leashed dogs in all of its parks," (https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/guides/dogs - noting that the only place you can take your dog OFF leash is in a designated dog park.)

I do keep my dog more than 15 feet from the field boundary, and generally at least that far from any other spectators. That is mostly because he is extremely friendly - social to a fault - and will tend to get distracted (and distract me) if there are other people around that he wants to say "hi" to.

I also recognize that tournaments will sometimes add their own rules and restrictions in addition to the regular rules governing county parks, so I always check the tournament rules carefully to make sure they do not have a no pet policy before traveling with my dog.

I get that there are irresponsible dog owners out there, just as there are complete A-holes who can't keep their mouths shut during the games, get in fights with opposing spectators, and otherwise act like idiots, spoiling the experience for the rest of us. But it was wrong for the OP to have included "dogs everywhere" during soccer tournaments as part his/her "hall of shame."

The 15 foot limit applies to all spectators, whether or not they have a pet. "11. For patron safety, only players, coaches, umpires and referees are allowed on athletic fields. All spectators, pets and others are to remain at least 15 feet from the boundary of the field, or outside a perimeter fence." https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/parks/rules/athletic-fields.

Sorry, but I'm with the OP (and I'm a dog owner myself).

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Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?

I'm not a dog owner, but what on earth is wrong with someone bringing a dog to a game?

About dogs or pets. No league or park allows them at games or practices. Unfortunately league, tournament and tram officials do a crappy job of enforcing those rules. I have seen matches halted because some dumbass’s dog got loose and is running all over the field.

So what? Obviously not 100% ideal, but surely a dog putting a temporary halt to a kid's soccer game is one of those mildly amusing things that happens from time to time. It should bring a smile to peoples' faces, be dealt with in sconds and the game resumes. Hardly a "hall of shame" event...?

No, your stupid dog running around doesn’t bring smiles to everyone’s faces. And when at work think of your dog stories like your bowel movements, your the only one who cares about them and their best kept to yourself.

Anonymous wrote:Dulles Cup incidents
- Herndon Coach ejected
- fan fight arrests
- fans ejected
- dogs all over the place
- boys team scores 20-0 15-0 in first 2 games
Sad and shameful all around

Can’t we all just get along ?