Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty happy with Loudoun. The crazy parents yelling at the school board are a loud but tiny minority. The staff at my children’s individual schools have been mostly wonderful. The class sizes are great and I like the start times. My oldest in 8th so I haven’t experienced high school yet.

How DARE a father get upset that his daughter was raped!

Do NOT send your children to school in FCPS. If they get sexually harassed in some way, the school will fail to investigate it or punish the harasser. Whether the harasser is a teacher, or another student, they get away with it. It's not only sexual misconduct, it's other discriminatory things as well. Only go to these schools if you know how to fight, have good lawyers, or are a straight white male.

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Yep I’m that Pp. I grew up in Bibb County Georgia . Absolutely awful education and we knew it even then. FCPS , APS teachers have masters degrees and often higher. Teachers in the south? Unlikely not because they’re stupid but because they can’t afford to get one and the pay would never justify it. My 10th grade geography class I still remember to this day one test because one question was about the tallest mountain range in the world. The choices were a) Himalayas or b) Pokémon mountains. POKÉMON MOUNTAINS. So APS parents crying dumpster fire is just so damn tone deaf. They have NO clue.

One of the strongest results in education research is that teachers with master's degrees have anywhere from no impact to a negative impact on student performance. Sample meta-analysis here:

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED520769.pdf

This confusion of "Things That Look Good" with "Things That Are Good" is the cause of quite a few problems in the education industry.

Ok. Go find the study that shows what the impact on education is when all the teachers have taught 1-3 years because they make 30k and leave before they can develop true expertise. Go find the study that shows the impact when the geography teacher is a coach who pushes a grocery store buggy around the school because there’s no classroom and they know so little about geography they make a test choice the Pokémon mountains. You all sound like CLOWNS acting like education is truly bad here. Get outside your bubble.

I don't deny that other districts -- especially poor ones -- may have issues, but gosh, you were the one who cited master's degrees as being a sign of quality, and it is more a sign of misallocation of resources.

How many people actually chose "pokemon mountains" and how much was the teaching, as opposed to the expected result of students being dumb and/or uncaring?

Also, shame on that geography teacher for expecting students to memorize facts instead of constructing their own knowledge.

Incidentally, there's a steep curve at the start -- first year teachers particularly are pretty shaky -- but average teacher effectiveness peaks at around their tenth year, and then gradually coasts downwards. I do wonder if this is changing as not only are all the teachers trained under the old models are gone, but also the students that they taught, and now the third generation is fading away.

Anonymous wrote:I’m going to chime in here to say I don’t think the issue is FCPS or APS or any other nova school district. The issue is the changes to education curriculum. That is what is causing parents to supplement that is what’s causing children to not know the basics of subjects. It’s a nationwide problem not a local problem.

This!!!!!

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Yep I’m that Pp. I grew up in Bibb County Georgia . Absolutely awful education and we knew it even then. FCPS , APS teachers have masters degrees and often higher. Teachers in the south? Unlikely not because they’re stupid but because they can’t afford to get one and the pay would never justify it. My 10th grade geography class I still remember to this day one test because one question was about the tallest mountain range in the world. The choices were a) Himalayas or b) Pokémon mountains. POKÉMON MOUNTAINS. So APS parents crying dumpster fire is just so damn tone deaf. They have NO clue.

One of the strongest results in education research is that teachers with master's degrees have anywhere from no impact to a negative impact on student performance. Sample meta-analysis here:

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED520769.pdf

This confusion of "Things That Look Good" with "Things That Are Good" is the cause of quite a few problems in the education industry.

Ok. Go find the study that shows what the impact on education is when all the teachers have taught 1-3 years because they make 30k and leave before they can develop true expertise. Go find the study that shows the impact when the geography teacher is a coach who pushes a grocery store buggy around the school because there’s no classroom and they know so little about geography they make a test choice the Pokémon mountains. You all sound like CLOWNS acting like education is truly bad here. Get outside your bubble.