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Anonymous wrote:My grandmother as a young woman lived through WWII, my mother as a kid lived through post WWII poverty, hardships and then Soviet regime.

My kid has to wear a mask for a couple of years and the education may not be optimal.

This is nothing, nothing comparing to others. Also, it’s nothing comparing to what is waiting for them ahead- climate change catastrophes and natural resources scarcity. They need to toughen up.

It would be small potatoes comparatively if there were a point… but there isn’t actually any point to this. We’re basically closing schools and/or requiring children to wear masks all the time because we’re idiots. I’m sure your mother and grandmother wouldn’t brag about living with rations and bread lines if their governments were basically imposing those things just for fun. It’s simply asinine.

exactly. and I seriously doubt PP would say, “Oh, our grandparents lived with Stalin. Stop complaining about Trump!”

My child's grandparents did live with Stalin. American's today cannot make any sacrifices but that is their parents fault and it is their fault for what example they are teaching their kids so it will follow for another generation. Wearing masks to school is no big deal. We don't feel safe sending ours back, don't plan to and have zero plan on how they will get an education next year. Thanks to all those whose good time is more important than helping us send our kids back to school safely. The kids whose parents have been conservative with no travel, no eating out/shopping, no camps, very limited social in person are the kids suffering, which is not most of the kids here. And, our kids will continue to suffer because of the choices others make.

Anonymous wrote:Lack of community-based activities? Are you all so delusional to think that rec centers and dance classes are something that existed forever?
And...camps were open even last summer in the DMV.

guys, this is actually where the school closing discourse is right now: “You shouldn’t complain about schools being closed - schools didn’t even exist in the 1800s!” this is a thing that “influencers” are disseminating right now in an attempt to get DCPS and other school systems to close.

I think its sad how the parents and adults are handling it and that impacts kids more. We use this opportunity to be thankful we are in a country that we are safe and can get our basic needs met. We use this time teach our kids about community and how to be resilient and help stop the spread so we can all get back to life as normal (which now will never happen). So many good lessons to teach your kids about behavior during a country crisis. Also, the bonus of more family time.

Anonymous wrote:Well, being in pandemic is infinitely better than being a small Afghan kid stuck in Afghanistan, knowing that your parents worked with the Americans and therefor the Taliban will kill them for collaborating with US, rape and traffic you.

Staying indoors in an air-conditionaed home and stuffing your face with junk food is not a hardship. Introduce your children to video games FFS. They will be happy during the pandemic. JFC.

I’ll be happy when the pandemic of stupid metaphors ends.

Anonymous wrote:I am as liberal as they come, and I believe history is going to show that blue states handed covid far worse.

I now believe this as well.

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Anonymous wrote:My grandmother as a young woman lived through WWII, my mother as a kid lived through post WWII poverty, hardships and then Soviet regime.

My kid has to wear a mask for a couple of years and the education may not be optimal.

This is nothing, nothing comparing to others. Also, it’s nothing comparing to what is waiting for them ahead- climate change catastrophes and natural resources scarcity. They need to toughen up.

It would be small potatoes comparatively if there were a point… but there isn’t actually any point to this. We’re basically closing schools and/or requiring children to wear masks all the time because we’re idiots. I’m sure your mother and grandmother wouldn’t brag about living with rations and bread lines if their governments were basically imposing those things just for fun. It’s simply asinine.

exactly. and I seriously doubt PP would say, “Oh, our grandparents lived with Stalin. Stop complaining about Trump!”

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perspective. Life is long if we are lucky. I have a friend whose son missed 4th and 5th grade because of cancer. He’s in 10th grade now and the social isolation from those years is a distant memory. The kids will be all right.

But schools were closed because adults failed kids, not because all kids got cancer.

honestly at this point, if you cannot engage with the actual evidence on schools, risks to kids, and harms of school closure, you shouldn’t be talking.

Okay, your 2nd paragraph makes so sense I this context because I never said anything about schools closing.

As for your first, you are so hyperbolic it's unbelievable. If you can't engage with the actually reality and not your own warped anger, you shouldn't even be talking.

The damage of this year to kids is transient, impermanent. They will be fine overall because they are more resilient than the screechy, entrenched adults around them.

And what makes you qualified to declare that the harms of school closure are “transient”? and why is it ok to harm kids “transiently” anyway?

Lack of community-based activities? Are you all so delusional to think that rec centers and dance classes are something that existed forever?
And...camps were open even last summer in the DMV.

I survived the smallpox outbreak in 1972. Mom worked and so did my dad.

I am as liberal as they come, and I believe history is going to show that blue states handed covid far worse.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perspective. Life is long if we are lucky. I have a friend whose son missed 4th and 5th grade because of cancer. He’s in 10th grade now and the social isolation from those years is a distant memory. The kids will be all right.

But schools were closed because adults failed kids, not because all kids got cancer.

honestly at this point, if you cannot engage with the actual evidence on schools, risks to kids, and harms of school closure, you shouldn’t be talking.

Okay, your 2nd paragraph makes so sense I this context because I never said anything about schools closing.

As for your first, you are so hyperbolic it's unbelievable. If you can't engage with the actually reality and not your own warped anger, you shouldn't even be talking.

The damage of this year to kids is transient, impermanent. They will be fine overall because they are more resilient than the screechy, entrenched adults around them.

That's not what the education data coming out is showing. You seem ignorant.

Well, being in pandemic is infinitely better than being a small Afghan kid stuck in Afghanistan, knowing that your parents worked with the Americans and therefor the Taliban will kill them for collaborating with US, rape and traffic you.

Staying indoors in an air-conditionaed home and stuffing your face with junk food is not a hardship. Introduce your children to video games FFS. They will be happy during the pandemic. JFC.

Anonymous wrote:Hey midwest poster. Does your school system have 100-200K kids in it? How much are you really minimizing how covid affected your community? My guess is it was invisible to you but it was very visible to healthcare workers and the sick.

I had a group of friends for my kid and me and was super social as was safe during my the last year. My kid got on Discord nightly with his friends and daily, he tutored and mentored at risk kids from his school.

A lot of how people handled covid, esp in this thread was either compete isolation or compete denial something was happening.

There were always choices and people made some bad ones. But in real life, not the loud annoying voices online, most people weren't reckless or completely isolated.

Midwest poster— We have about 80k in public. My kids go to private, but it is 10k a year, not 50k. I am not minimizing anything. I know you want to think that I am a COVID denier or something, but that is not at all accurate. That is how it has been here.

One of my best friends is an ER doc at one of our 3 hospitals. She says they were never overwhelmed. The hardest part was figuring stuff out as we figured out how COVID transmitted, what the procedures should be, etc. early. Of course she has stressful shifts, but not because of COVID numbers. Our hospitals are still fine, well below capacity.

As for the sick, they have my sympathy but they would need to isolate no matter what as COVID is not the only threat out there. Having had cancer in the family pre-COVID, it is just good practice. Shutting down schools made no sense, offering an at-home option for those with a sick family member did. And isolating if you are vulnerable makes sense irrespective of COVID.

Hey midwest poster. Does your school system have 100-200K kids in it? How much are you really minimizing how covid affected your community? My guess is it was invisible to you but it was very visible to healthcare workers and the sick.

I had a group of friends for my kid and me and was super social as was safe during my the last year. My kid got on Discord nightly with his friends and daily, he tutored and mentored at risk kids from his school.

A lot of how people handled covid, esp in this thread was either compete isolation or compete denial something was happening.

There were always choices and people made some bad ones. But in real life, not the loud annoying voices online, most people weren't reckless or completely isolated.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective. Life is long if we are lucky. I have a friend whose son missed 4th and 5th grade because of cancer. He’s in 10th grade now and the social isolation from those years is a distant memory. The kids will be all right.

But schools were closed because adults failed kids, not because all kids got cancer.

honestly at this point, if you cannot engage with the actual evidence on schools, risks to kids, and harms of school closure, you shouldn’t be talking.

Okay, your 2nd paragraph makes so sense I this context because I never said anything about schools closing.

As for your first, you are so hyperbolic it's unbelievable. If you can't engage with the actually reality and not your own warped anger, you shouldn't even be talking.

The damage of this year to kids is transient, impermanent. They will be fine overall because they are more resilient than the screechy, entrenched adults around them.