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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t get into HYPSH but want the connections? Join a traditionally Ivy League frat like Alpha Delta Phi or St. Anthony’s Hall. Get a masters at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. With a Fletcher degree you can join the Harvard Club.

OOPS. I meant HYPSM.

I went to Harvard and have never heard of these frats. There's minimal Greek life at Harvard...

St. Anthony's used to be the fraternity equivalent at Columbia of a finals club at Harvard or Yale, or Ivy Club at Princeton. Not sure if it's still a big thing there. It had chapters at some other schools, but again don't know if they are active or carry any particular social weight.

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Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

I think it should be just HSM. HSM shows up in the top 5 of most global rankings and contribute the most to academia in the US (+ Berkeley). Y and P are closer to Columbia and Caltech, the next rung of schools, more so than they are to HSM.

That's about right based on my experience living overseas. P and Y are well-respected in the US but less well known abroad and their grad programs are less endowed than HSM, hence their international rankings dip. QS had Yale at #14, below Penn, and Princeton below Columbia at #20 this year. Just go abroad and ask how many people have heard of H/S vs Y/P and you'll get a good idea.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, my undergrad and grad credentials continue to impress people. I’m more than 20 years out and (other) people bring it up in a professional context. I never bring it up. I actually find it somewhat annoying since at 20 years out my accomplishments should stand for themselves, but big names continue to have some sort of impact (I’ve gotten negative comments, too).

I was a first generation student at HYP but I married someone who is a longtime family legacy - like his family have been going to the same HYP school since the 1800s. So we come at our view of sending our kids from different angles, but we both really hope our kids are able to be admitted and attend HYP. But if they don’t, that’s fine, I guess they can attend Stanford or MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

I think it should be just HSM. HSM shows up in the top 5 of most global rankings and contribute the most to academia in the US (+ Berkeley). Y and P are closer to Columbia and Caltech, the next rung of schools, more so than they are to HSM.

That's about right based on my experience living overseas. P and Y are well-respected in the US but less well known abroad and their grad programs are less endowed than HSM, hence their international rankings dip. QS had Yale at #14, below Penn, and Princeton below Columbia at #20 this year. Just go abroad and ask how many people have heard of H/S vs Y/P and you'll get a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

I think it should be just HSM. HSM shows up in the top 5 of most global rankings and contribute the most to academia in the US (+ Berkeley). Y and P are closer to Columbia and Caltech, the next rung of schools, more so than they are to HSM.

H is by itself, if you have to split the 5. SM are one rung down closer to the rest, can't match the perceived and real power H yields in the world.

Holy insufferable. I know a great kid heading for H...please tell me it is not full of people that are writing crap like the above post.

It is and that’s why I went to Yale. seriously , the Harvard kids were so smug and self congratulatory. Yale kids more quirky. Came down to that. And yes, it’s given me a lot of advantages. People see the degree and automatically assume you’re smart and competent.