Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 15:42     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.


Not sure if I'd equate the two. Car seats weren't invented a year ago and there's no known downside to putting an infant in a car seat. But you might think twice about putting your kid in car seat that wasn't approved by the proper bodies (like whatever the car seat equivalent of the FDA is).
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 14:31     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine is an OB in Florida, she has been pulled u to working ICU shifts because there are so many pregnant patients who are getting really sick with Covid. Her biggest concern is that a lot of the drugs they need to use to keep pregnant women alive are NOT tested in pregnancy and they have no idea what the effects will be on the baby. Those drugs are a much much much bigger risk to the u born child than a very safe and effective vaccine. Vaccines aren’t like drugs - you get one or two tiny doses and all traces are gone within two weeks, usually much much less. IV drugs administered by the bagful for days and weeks and months…yikes. The risks are definitely not equal.


OP here thank you for sharing …I hadn’t thought of this and if I put weird drugs size by side and vaccine the vaccine is of course safer since it WAS tested more on pregnant women. Thanks again for this point I met with my OB and I am at this time going to get vaccinated with my first dose before my 32 week ultrasound (it’s closer to end of pregnancy and it’s the first dose and I’ll go from there). There has only been 2 pregnant women seriously ill with Covid at my hospital since July (I mean it about me being in a rural area).


I just want to say I'm proud of you for deciding to get it. You're doing the right thing. Best of luck on the rest of your pregnancy!
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 14:06     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine is an OB in Florida, she has been pulled u to working ICU shifts because there are so many pregnant patients who are getting really sick with Covid. Her biggest concern is that a lot of the drugs they need to use to keep pregnant women alive are NOT tested in pregnancy and they have no idea what the effects will be on the baby. Those drugs are a much much much bigger risk to the u born child than a very safe and effective vaccine. Vaccines aren’t like drugs - you get one or two tiny doses and all traces are gone within two weeks, usually much much less. IV drugs administered by the bagful for days and weeks and months…yikes. The risks are definitely not equal.


OP here thank you for sharing …I hadn’t thought of this and if I put weird drugs size by side and vaccine the vaccine is of course safer since it WAS tested more on pregnant women. Thanks again for this point I met with my OB and I am at this time going to get vaccinated with my first dose before my 32 week ultrasound (it’s closer to end of pregnancy and it’s the first dose and I’ll go from there). There has only been 2 pregnant women seriously ill with Covid at my hospital since July (I mean it about me being in a rural area).
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 12:52     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
A friend of mine is an OB in Florida, she has been pulled u to working ICU shifts because there are so many pregnant patients who are getting really sick with Covid. Her biggest concern is that a lot of the drugs they need to use to keep pregnant women alive are NOT tested in pregnancy and they have no idea what the effects will be on the baby. Those drugs are a much much much bigger risk to the u born child than a very safe and effective vaccine. Vaccines aren’t like drugs - you get one or two tiny doses and all traces are gone within two weeks, usually much much less. IV drugs administered by the bagful for days and weeks and months…yikes. The risks are definitely not equal.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 12:16     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is strange to me that pregnant women would get tDap but not the covid vaccine. Covid is so much more of a risk.


Yeah, sort of like everyone worrying about eating sandwiches due to the listeria risk, but not thinking twice about digging into a salad or bowl of ice cream or fresh melon.


Yes. People are so bad at judging risk. So bad.


Unrelated I know but OP here …I don’t eat ice cream because of the raw eggs and listeria, no romaine since it is the most recalled item for listeria, and eat watermelon whole only after washed in soapy warm water. I am surprised more pregnant women don’t take this stuff seriously, we can CONTROL this stuff when we can’t other things.


OP, there's a lot about parenting that is out of control, whether you realize it or not. Nearly every decision can involve some form of risk. Be careful that you dont end up dealing with PPA...I've been there, and it is hell.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 12:12     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is strange to me that pregnant women would get tDap but not the covid vaccine. Covid is so much more of a risk.


Yeah, sort of like everyone worrying about eating sandwiches due to the listeria risk, but not thinking twice about digging into a salad or bowl of ice cream or fresh melon.


Yes. People are so bad at judging risk. So bad.


Unrelated I know but OP here …I don’t eat ice cream because of the raw eggs and listeria, no romaine since it is the most recalled item for listeria, and eat watermelon whole only after washed in soapy warm water. I am surprised more pregnant women don’t take this stuff seriously, we can CONTROL this stuff when we can’t other things.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 11:54     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is strange to me that pregnant women would get tDap but not the covid vaccine. Covid is so much more of a risk.


Yeah, sort of like everyone worrying about eating sandwiches due to the listeria risk, but not thinking twice about digging into a salad or bowl of ice cream or fresh melon.


Yes. People are so bad at judging risk. So bad.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 11:29     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.


What shitty hospital did you deliver at? Mine wouldn't let us leave the hospital with baby until they saw we'd installed a car seat.


Exactly. We do NOT say "You have to decide what's best for you and your baby" about car seats. We say, "You have to have a car seat."
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 10:48     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:

Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?


OP here I know this question isn’t for me but you understand those are different right - tdap took like 7 years to get approved for pregnant women. Yes, I still asked OB if those were safe long and short term and the resounding, clear, complete answer was yes! My family got the tdap and flu shot before seeing my first born. We did too. My kid is fully vaccinated ON schedule. I don’t understand how people don’t get this is not equal in situation to covid vacccine.


Because mRNA vaccines ARE NOT NEW. Because these are extraordinary circumstances. Because the risk of getting covid far outweighs the risk of the vaccine. You are the one making false equivalencies.



Not really, no one knows the long term effects because there simply isn't the track record as tdap. It's condescending and disingenuous to act as if they are the same.

OP, I have been holding off but am planning to get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow. Fingers crossed that the risk/reward outcome will be favorable. Understand if other people come to different conclusions with the same information. Good luck.


TDAP is not equal to covid vaccinations at all because COVID is far more likely to kill your child, or cause life long problems this year than Pertussis.

They moved quickly on the vaccine because the disease is more dangerous. How is that hard to understand. Relying on herd immunity and not vaccinating for polio or diptheria or something is selfish, but it's not child neglect. Not getting the covid vaccine is not at all comparable to that. It's more similar to having unprotected sex during pregnancy and refusing an HIV test.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 10:41     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.


What shitty hospital did you deliver at? Mine wouldn't let us leave the hospital with baby until they saw we'd installed a car seat.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 10:26     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:It is strange to me that pregnant women would get tDap but not the covid vaccine. Covid is so much more of a risk.


Yeah, sort of like everyone worrying about eating sandwiches due to the listeria risk, but not thinking twice about digging into a salad or bowl of ice cream or fresh melon.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 07:55     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
It is strange to me that pregnant women would get tDap but not the covid vaccine. Covid is so much more of a risk.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 07:35     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.


Oversimplification of the issue and you know it. Stop being so obtuse. COVID-19 disease and its vaccines are new and the stats on pregnant women have only short term context. There are prophylactic measures to help prevent coronavirus infection and lifestyle adjustments to minimize your risk profile for severe disease if infected. When you make the issue seem like it's black or white to vax or not to vax while pregnant, you alienate the hesitant you are trying to convince instead of help.


Tell it to ACOG and the MFMs, who unequivocally recommend that pregnant women get vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 04:58     Subject: s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thought for OP, getting the vax while pregnant is something you can do to provide a level of COVID protection for (you and) your newborn. It is the only way a vaccine can currently be transmitted to a child under 12yrs. As someone previously mentioned all decisions are about weighing risk.

If there's any complication post-vax, is it directly caused by the vax? vs.
If you or the baby contract COVID, could it be prevented or less severe/fatal w/the vax?

Then compare the %. You have to decide what's best for you and your baby.


Odd how we don't say that to people about the decision to bring their baby home by car with or without a car seat.


Oversimplification of the issue and you know it. Stop being so obtuse. COVID-19 disease and its vaccines are new and the stats on pregnant women have only short term context. There are prophylactic measures to help prevent coronavirus infection and lifestyle adjustments to minimize your risk profile for severe disease if infected. When you make the issue seem like it's black or white to vax or not to vax while pregnant, you alienate the hesitant you are trying to convince instead of help.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2021 02:24     Subject: Re:s/o pregnant and scared to get vaccinated, alternatives or compromises?


Did you get pertussis or any other vaccine. Require those around you to have?


OP here I know this question isn’t for me but you understand those are different right - tdap took like 7 years to get approved for pregnant women. Yes, I still asked OB if those were safe long and short term and the resounding, clear, complete answer was yes! My family got the tdap and flu shot before seeing my first born. We did too. My kid is fully vaccinated ON schedule. I don’t understand how people don’t get this is not equal in situation to covid vacccine.


Because mRNA vaccines ARE NOT NEW. Because these are extraordinary circumstances. Because the risk of getting covid far outweighs the risk of the vaccine. You are the one making false equivalencies.



Not really, no one knows the long term effects because there simply isn't the track record as tdap. It's condescending and disingenuous to act as if they are the same.

OP, I have been holding off but am planning to get my first dose of Pfizer tomorrow. Fingers crossed that the risk/reward outcome will be favorable. Understand if other people come to different conclusions with the same information. Good luck.