The OOB haters here have like, the weirdest perception of families EOTP.

I am also entertained at the idea that white gentrifiers are somehow morally inferior to those who live in gentrified areas.

You do know that black communities were deliberately removed from Ward 3 in order to create a white enclave in the city? Like a whole black community was basically bulldozed. Reno, in Tenleytown.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

I'm going to respond to this because I think you genuinely believe what you're saying. We live EOTP and I work and live with many multi-generational DC residents. It is a false premise that everyone in EOTP neighborhoods except white gentrifiers sends their kids to their neighborhood school. I have literally, and I mean literally, been called a white savior by a black friend when I expressed conflict about not sending my child to our in-bound. Generations of middle class black DC residents, and the current generation of immigrant families, are playing the lottery for charters or OOB spots or have their kids in parochial schools. Come to my neighborhood and you will see graduation yard signs from ALL over. I can give you second hand accounts of how Wilson is for black students, what Latin was like in the first few years, and which Catholic schools are light or heavy handed on religion because when I ask "oh you're from DC, where did you go to school?", those are the conversations that follow. And my kids are at an EOTP Title 1 school. Not our in-bounds, but another that is <10% white and majority at-risk. And it's a good school for us. But if/when we get an OOB seat with Wilson feeder rights, all of those people you're claiming to be concerned about will be congratulating me and giving me tips on the commute across the park. So frankly when you pontificate about what "those" populations think about white gentrifiers, I know you just don't actually know any of "those" people and are really just fussed that someone got what you have by luck and that feels unfair to you.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

Oh. So the issue is that you care about the quality of schools EOTP. Maybe you should send your child to one?

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

Yikes

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

Well said. It’s been hard to have an honest conversation on this issue because the white gentrifiers have no shame about playing the race card to enable continuation of a system that allows them to flee the very populations they claim to want to protect. Every morning they walk past the BLM signs in their yards EOTP and drive their kids to WOTP schools. Ironically, the vast majority of diversity in Ward 3 schools comes from IB kids from embassies and families living in the neighborhood and apartments along Connecticut Avenue. It’s NOT from EOTP. All these kids are warmly embraced as they should be. The gentrifiers know their game is unsustainable and are fighting like they’re trying to escape from Kabul.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

I think it is OK for parents to seek answers for or disagree with the rationale behind IB/OOB school makeup and admissions, and still be individually welcoming to the families and kids that are there (whether IB or OOB)--which I imagine is the case 99.9 percent of the time. Even from self-interest, I doubt any parent is delusional to the point of wanting to foment divisions between existing families and classmates. However, like ALL else in DCPS there are no sacred cows--a full discussion about IB/OOB and the school's trajectory--have at it!

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

I love Hearst, and I don’t regret sending my child there for a second. The academics are excellent, and I’ve met some delightful parents and kids. I think there’s a third way here that you’re overlooking: Rather than denying that there are a (few?) parents who are strongly against OOB kids, just call them out on it (gently) when you hear them going down that road. And yes, I’m glad the OP is not letting this discourage her. There are way more decent people there than bad ones, the good people are just quieter.

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Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

I truly believe that this is just one poster replying over and over to stir up trouble. My kids have been at Hearst for more than 10 years and what this troll is describing is simply not true.

Anonymous wrote:... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

I appreciate you posting this. I have been feeling apprehensive about my kids starting school after reading this thread, worried they/we will be treated differently or have a harder time making friends. I'm sure it will be fine when we get there, but it bums me out people think like this. We're all just trying to do the best we can for our kids. Anyway, your kindness matters - thank you!

Good thing people that have lived in D. C. aren’t rude and disrespectful to newcomers to D.C. like some of these Hearst parents seem to be to OOB students. Are OOB students from elsewhere in Ward 3 or maybe Ward 2 treated disrespectfully? What about families that are UMC but OOB? Is Hearst on par with the other West of the Park schools? These discussions sound like there’s a lot of unnecessary snobbishness. Hearst was thought to be a kind quality school with a new recreation center being built next door and a top private school nearby and also celebrates diversity.

... I'm a Hearst parent and I have no idea what the PPs here are talking about with regard to parents being jerks to OOB students or any of this other drama.

Folks who are offered lottery spots at Hearst, come on in! It's a great school, the teachers and families we've gotten to know are down-to-earth and lovely and welcoming, and I've never heard anyone say one word about families living IB or OOB. It's fine. The kids love Hearst. The teachers love the kids. The parents are kind and normal.

OMG, the anti-OOB sentiment here is so crazy and awful and weird that one good thing has come out of it. The next time one of these parents shuns me or glares at me I’m going to be reminded of this thread and fall over laughing.

I assume it’s one poster replying to herself, but regardless she’s clearly got an axe to grind and isn’t worth arguing with. DC relies on the lottery, charters, and OOB seats to avoid doing the hard work of improving all schools, so if PP doesn’t like the system she chose to buy a house in, she should move. The system is what it is and no amount of anonymous complaining or being rude to school children is going to change it.

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NP: and here’s one of many great examples of this disgusting attitude. “Oh I DEFINITELY worked so hard to have my beautiful neighborhood school, by being wealthy and WOTP. But those gross EOTP people need to work harder. Surely, they are wealthy, not like me, who lives in the highest income part of the city. They ought to put in the work I think they should before they deserve the same quality education as my children do.”

That's ... not at all what PP said. Here, I'll attempt my own phrasing:

I freely chose to live in Ward 3 and freely chose to buy a home for >$800K. I am a college educated professional and I make a very good salary. I want to send my children to my assigned neighborhood schools. The strength of my assigned neighborhood schools was an important factor in making my free choice to buy where I did.

I freely chose to live in Petworth/Columbia Heights/16thSt Hts and freely chose to buy a home for >$800K. I am a college educated professional and I make a very good salary. I want to send my children to schools in a different neighborhood, one where I could have bought a home but freely chose not to do so. The relatively poor performance of my assigned neighborhood schools was not as important as other factors when I made the free choice to buy where I did.

+1,000,000. I’ve lost count of how many white OOB families living in $1M+ houses in Crestwood, 16th streets heights, etc. pull up to that school every morning in their bumper sticker laden cars virtue signaling cars. It’s disgusting and should not be allowed.

Hahahaha i am sorry. WHAT shouldn't be allowed?

...bumper stickers? she seems REAL mad at like, one particular vehicle.

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NP: and here’s one of many great examples of this disgusting attitude. “Oh I DEFINITELY worked so hard to have my beautiful neighborhood school, by being wealthy and WOTP. But those gross EOTP people need to work harder. Surely, they are wealthy, not like me, who lives in the highest income part of the city. They ought to put in the work I think they should before they deserve the same quality education as my children do.”

That's ... not at all what PP said. Here, I'll attempt my own phrasing:

I freely chose to live in Ward 3 and freely chose to buy a home for >$800K. I am a college educated professional and I make a very good salary. I want to send my children to my assigned neighborhood schools. The strength of my assigned neighborhood schools was an important factor in making my free choice to buy where I did.

I freely chose to live in Petworth/Columbia Heights/16thSt Hts and freely chose to buy a home for >$800K. I am a college educated professional and I make a very good salary. I want to send my children to schools in a different neighborhood, one where I could have bought a home but freely chose not to do so. The relatively poor performance of my assigned neighborhood schools was not as important as other factors when I made the free choice to buy where I did.

You are very, very wrong. You are trying to pretend as though the PP wasn't making a value judgment or declaring that OOB parents need to leave the school. Let's not be disingenuous here. Your little tale here completely ignores the repeated calls throughout the thread for OOB parents to go to their own crappy schools and fix them.

I find this hilarious because I doubt there is a single Hearst parent here who was involved in the "fixing" of Hearst so long ago. You bought your school. You didn't do the work. You're just pretending you did.