Anonymous
06/23/2021 12:31
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Well, we know what the city thinks about its small businesses, so I expect to see Connecticut narrowed down to one lane in each direction any day now with permanent bike lanes and with no street parking. In fact, DDOT will just drop the "Avenue" and rename it "Connecticut Way" or "Connecticut Lane."
Study after study has found that bike lanes are good for small businesses.
So you can stop worrying now.
Cite one objective study that supports your claim for the businesses along Connecticut Avenue. We're not talking about Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver, Toronto, or some other city with different traffic patterns.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 12:19
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:
Well, we know what the city thinks about its small businesses, so I expect to see Connecticut narrowed down to one lane in each direction any day now with permanent bike lanes and with no street parking. In fact, DDOT will just drop the "Avenue" and rename it "Connecticut Way" or "Connecticut Lane."
Study after study has found that bike lanes are good for small businesses.
So you can stop worrying now.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 12:11
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Why?
I wish the Connecticut Ave bike lanes would go all the way north to the Purple Line station.
Because that’s what DDOT says. Bike lanes require engineering solutions will take the longest to implement. Just removing the reversible lanes and restriping will be the quickest, but then no bike lanes. DDOT has not made a final decision about what it wants to do. Local businesses favor any solution the removes the rush hour parking restrictions and maintains the street parking. However that interest directly contradicts bike lanes, unless they make Connecticut one lane if car travel in each direction, which would be interesting.
Well, we know what the city thinks about its small businesses, so I expect to see Connecticut narrowed down to one lane in each direction any day now with permanent bike lanes and with no street parking. In fact, DDOT will just drop the "Avenue" and rename it "Connecticut Way" or "Connecticut Lane."
Anonymous
06/23/2021 11:45
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
You're calling 4 years "many years"?
Anonymous
06/23/2021 11:39
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Why?
I wish the Connecticut Ave bike lanes would go all the way north to the Purple Line station.
Because that’s what DDOT says. Bike lanes require engineering solutions will take the longest to implement. Just removing the reversible lanes and restriping will be the quickest, but then no bike lanes. DDOT has not made a final decision about what it wants to do. Local businesses favor any solution the removes the rush hour parking restrictions and maintains the street parking. However that interest directly contradicts bike lanes, unless they make Connecticut one lane if car travel in each direction, which would be interesting.
What, exactly, does DDOT say? Bike lanes do not have to take many years to implement.
You’re asking the wrong person. Go talk to DDOT.
https://ddot.dc.gov/page/connecticut-avenue-nw-reversible-lane-safety-and-operations-study
They told the Post that if they select bike lanes it will take 4 years to implement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/connecticut-avenue-bike-lanes/2021/04/09/d2af38f0-9798-11eb-a6d0-13d207aadb78_story.html
Anonymous
06/23/2021 11:27
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Why?
I wish the Connecticut Ave bike lanes would go all the way north to the Purple Line station.
Because that’s what DDOT says. Bike lanes require engineering solutions will take the longest to implement. Just removing the reversible lanes and restriping will be the quickest, but then no bike lanes. DDOT has not made a final decision about what it wants to do. Local businesses favor any solution the removes the rush hour parking restrictions and maintains the street parking. However that interest directly contradicts bike lanes, unless they make Connecticut one lane if car travel in each direction, which would be interesting.
What, exactly, does DDOT say? Bike lanes do not have to take many years to implement.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 11:22
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Why?
I wish the Connecticut Ave bike lanes would go all the way north to the Purple Line station.
Because that’s what DDOT says. Bike lanes require engineering solutions will take the longest to implement. Just removing the reversible lanes and restriping will be the quickest, but then no bike lanes. DDOT has not made a final decision about what it wants to do. Local businesses favor any solution the removes the rush hour parking restrictions and maintains the street parking. However that interest directly contradicts bike lanes, unless they make Connecticut one lane if car travel in each direction, which would be interesting.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 10:42
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Traffic patterns will be back to pre-pandemic levels by the Fall. DC will continue to force cars off the road by over-emphasizing cyclists and pedestrians. Over time this will inevitably lead to an erosion of the city’s tax base as more residents leave and the number of jobs stagnates or declines. Then the city’s Politburo will ask what went wrong…
How can traffic be back to pre-pandemic levels if DC is forcing cars off the road?
Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded!
Anonymous
06/23/2021 10:22
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Traffic patterns will be back to pre-pandemic levels by the Fall. DC will continue to force cars off the road by over-emphasizing cyclists and pedestrians. Over time this will inevitably lead to an erosion of the city’s tax base as more residents leave and the number of jobs stagnates or declines. Then the city’s Politburo will ask what went wrong…
How can traffic be back to pre-pandemic levels if DC is forcing cars off the road?
Anonymous
06/23/2021 10:20
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Traffic patterns will be back to pre-pandemic levels by the Fall. DC will continue to force cars off the road by over-emphasizing cyclists and pedestrians. Over time this will inevitably lead to an erosion of the city’s tax base as more residents leave and the number of jobs stagnates or declines. Then the city’s Politburo will ask what went wrong…
Anonymous
06/23/2021 10:06
Subject: Re:Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But how can we help people who are bike dependent? When I see someone pedaling away on a busy street, with children on their bike, I just think: How can anyone be so stupid? How can someone who is a parent be so irresponsible?
By building safe, convenient bike routes. For example, protected bike lanes on Connecticut Ave. Then you won't have to worry anymore.
We'll support bike lanes when bikers actually stop at stop signs and red lights and yield to pedestrians. Otherwise, keep you training wheels on.
"1.3 billion motorists were ticketed for traffic violations captured by the array of traffic cameras in the District -- speed cameras, red-light cameras, stop sign cameras, and oversized vehicle cameras."
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-issued-one-billion-in-tickets-according-to-aaa/65-7f712fd5-1456-406c-8e4d-e23212848542
So when can we expect you and your ilk to start protesting new car lanes? Because if committing moving violations is your only criteria for not supporting infrastructure, you must be absolutely furious that cars have any lanes at all!
Anonymous
06/23/2021 09:01
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Why?
I wish the Connecticut Ave bike lanes would go all the way north to the Purple Line station.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 08:59
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:It’s looking like Crystal City, Tysons and Leesburg will drive jobs and growth for the next generation. DC decided that after climbing out of a wreck that everything is good enough. Sounds smart.
As it happens, both Crystal City and Tysons at least claim to be deprioritizing cars and roads. I don't know about Leesburg.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 23:20
Subject: Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Connecticut Avenue is not going to revert back. The reversible lanes are permanently gone. The only question at this point is if there will be bike lanes or not.
The only decision made was not to resume them on June 1.
Seems like this whole thread is presuming a lot. Any actual change to Connecticut, if/when a final decision is made on the proposed bike lanes, will take many years to implement in any case.
Anonymous
06/22/2021 22:46
Subject: Re:Will DC resume commuter traffic patterns in the fall?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But how can we help people who are bike dependent? When I see someone pedaling away on a busy street, with children on their bike, I just think: How can anyone be so stupid? How can someone who is a parent be so irresponsible?
By building safe, convenient bike routes. For example, protected bike lanes on Connecticut Ave. Then you won't have to worry anymore.
We'll support bike lanes when bikers actually stop at stop signs and red lights and yield to pedestrians. Otherwise, keep you training wheels on.
What about the cars that blow through stop signs. That is a little more dangerous, no?