Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I find astounding is the $425 seems acceptable, but $80+/- seems extraordinary.
$425 is absurd which is WHY an extra $80 is extraordinary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.
Tipping is customary for a job well done and the amount is at the discretion of the client. OP doesn’t owe her stylist an $80 tip for a couple hrs of service she is already paying for. She can tip whatever she wants and that is perfectly fine and acceptable.
Sure. But will she? It’s tacky not to.
Anonymous wrote:What I find astounding is the $425 seems acceptable, but $80+/- seems extraordinary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.
Tipping is customary for a job well done and the amount is at the discretion of the client. OP doesn’t owe her stylist an $80 tip for a couple hrs of service she is already paying for. She can tip whatever she wants and that is perfectly fine and acceptable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.
Because in Europe,you don't tip, it's figured into the price. I would rather have that here as well, even though I am not European.
Anonymous wrote:Right, they aren't charities - the people who work there should be paid and tipped, as is customary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361
Yes, but until a living wage is achieved, keep tipping.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.
I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.
a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.
b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.
c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?
Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.
I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.
But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.
Or the PP values their earned money and doesn’t throw it away
She clearly doesn't make enough earned money as a lawyer -- the tips she brings up are really not that much annually if you make a decent lawyer's salary. I am a lawyer and tipping these people is an afterthought for me because I have enough to do it and not think twice. I'm lucky and feel being generous is the right thing to do. If I was broke, then yeah, I might complain about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.
I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.
a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.
b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.
c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?
Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.
I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.
But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.
Or the PP values their earned money and doesn’t throw it away
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.
I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.
a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.
b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.
c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?
Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.
I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.
But complaining about $100 a month (perhaps?) in tips? Sounds like you aren't all that flush.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Salons love this train of thought" --- like salons are these huge money generators with insane profits. Most are small businesses run by regular hard working people. Give it a rest.
If it is all so reasonable and $400 plus $80 tip is a just price for the service, then why isn't the price of the service officially $480?
Because we are living in a tipping society right now in America. That's why. When you go to a restaurant, you add a tip. Why don't they just add it automatically to the bill, you say? Why? Why? Why?
Terrible circular argument.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only people I have ever *personally* known who are grumpy about tipping are Europeans. I wonder if that is the case on this thread.
I am American, in my 50s, and paid my way through college and law school summers with the 15% tips I made waiting tables. I am "grumpy" about the apparently infinite group of service providers who get (or expect) me to tip them.
a) I'm now expected to give tips to all-new categories of people so their employers get away with refusing to pay these people a living wage. Examples include retail workers, camp counselors, maintenance workers, lawn care staff, house cleaning staff, dog walker staff, movers, package delivery drivers (Amazon, UPS), gym staff, and every. manner. of. food/drink. employee. Appliance delivery guys, everyone who ever says a word to you at a hotel, the Music & Me teacher, the pool staff, aftercare employees, and on and on and on.
b) people who expect tips who don't do sht. ie, the woman who hands me a pre-packaged block of cheese from the case at Eastern Market — should she get a 18%, 20% or 25% gratuity for silently handing me the cheese? iPad wants to know.
c) the percentage of "customary" tip continues to increase, from 15% standard in the 80s to 20% minimum now — for the same meal. Why?
Not a very successful law career, huh? Sorry.
I'm mid-tier. I'm not cutting hair, though, so there's that.
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361