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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

I own a house in AU Park, and I am also in favor of building multifamily housing in the neighborhood so other people can be able to live there if they make less money than I do. What's really "entitled" is saying, "Well, I have the resources to move to this desirable area that's got lots of public transit and good schools, and now that I'm here, I oppose any changes that might make it easier for others to do the same thing." Personally, I'm also in favor of building city-owned public housing in our neighborhood, but I realize there's a long way to go to convince any of my neighbors on that one.

You really need to get informed. A new family housing shelter was just built. There are tons of apartments all up and down Wisconsin and Conneticut, with rent-controlled units (I have friends in them). I lived in an apartment "with a family" and child went to a good school. There is an existing supply of housing for people who make less money than you do. However, every motivated person seeking a "good school" in the neighborhood is one less person going to a school elsewhere and contributing their motivation elsewhere. The solution to equitable housing and education in our city is not an endless supply of more apartments in NW DC. There are tons of neighborhoods that can be gently developed in a balanced way across the city (including NW DC), which would mean more of more for everyone. However, the YIMBYS have their heavy breathing soley for NW DC. Sorry, your and their ideas are a fail, and also kinda classist and racist since you only see "value" in NW DC.

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.

*I* live in Wheaton... because it's where I can afford space for myself and my family. Do I wish I could have the same house in Potomac? Sure. Can't afford it. And that's OK. No one is stopping me from making more money and buying a house there. Nor does anyone owe it to me.

The discussion is not about the same house in Potomac vs Wheaton. It's about the mix of housing types, housing ownership, and housing costs available in both areas.

If you owned property in Potomac, and you wanted to build a duplex on it, government land use/zoning regulations would prohibit you from doing so. Do you think that's ok?

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

I own a house in AU Park, and I am also in favor of building multifamily housing in the neighborhood so other people can be able to live there if they make less money than I do. What's really "entitled" is saying, "Well, I have the resources to move to this desirable area that's got lots of public transit and good schools, and now that I'm here, I oppose any changes that might make it easier for others to do the same thing." Personally, I'm also in favor of building city-owned public housing in our neighborhood, but I realize there's a long way to go to convince any of my neighbors on that one.

You own an expensive single family house and are in favor of multi family housing. Why aren't you already living in a multi family housing unit?

If you believe in this type of living and zoning, then why is it always someone else's house that should be torn down and remade into multi units?

Also, city-owned public housing has long and mostly terrible history. I am not against public housing, but I am in favor of turning every page of the failures of public housing and not repeating them.

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.

*I* live in Wheaton... because it's where I can afford space for myself and my family. Do I wish I could have the same house in Potomac? Sure. Can't afford it. And that's OK. No one is stopping me from making more money and buying a house there. Nor does anyone owe it to me.

Can I have a house in Spring Valley? I'd quite like to live in Spring Valley! Will the city mow for me? I don't have a mower

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.

Why do you consider yourself too good or special to live in Hyattsville?

Why did you decide not to live in Hyattsville?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

I own a house in AU Park, and I am also in favor of building multifamily housing in the neighborhood so other people can be able to live there if they make less money than I do. What's really "entitled" is saying, "Well, I have the resources to move to this desirable area that's got lots of public transit and good schools, and now that I'm here, I oppose any changes that might make it easier for others to do the same thing." Personally, I'm also in favor of building city-owned public housing in our neighborhood, but I realize there's a long way to go to convince any of my neighbors on that one.

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.

Why do you consider yourself too good or special to live in Hyattsville?

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Anonymous wrote:YIMBY's all seem to be the same person: downwardly mobile millennial white guy who feels entitled to live anywhere they want despite not being able to afford it, has a lot of issues about growing up in upper class suburbs and arrogantly believes that either everyone wants what they want or should have what they want them to have.

As with anything, women and minorities that adopt these viewpoints get promoted in media, but it's just window dressing for these incel white dudes.

Nope. Try again.

Yep, I noticed a lot of the "neighbors" testifying at ANC meetings were quite young yuppies who'd just had a kid or were about to have a kid and didn't feel like they had enough space in their apartment in the neighborhood they felt entitled to live in. Do they not realize that high density, building more apartments, is not going to bring down the price of the next level/size home they want? Also, have they not heard of starter homes?? I lived in cramped dwellings with my first child for years as a trade off for location. It's a thing.

I lived in a 1 BD basement apartment for 2 years with DH and our baby saving up for our down payment. I am not big on the whole “I struggled so you must too” business, but these people are just ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Theres also this mindset that people should be able to live and maybe even buy in whatever neighborhood they please, regardless of income. Thats just not how life works.

Well yeah, that's kind of the whole point of YIMBYism, that we want to change how life works because we think it could be better.

Nobody is saying anyone who wants a 5br house in AU Park should have one, we're just saying maybe there shouldn't be laws that prevent property owners building multifamily housing on their own property so that someone who can't afford a 5BR house but can afford a studio apartment can live there.

Actually, that's exactly what the young couples at the ANC meetings were voicing--that they wanted bigger / better than the apartments they were living in in Ward 3. "Affordable starter Family living without leaving the neighborhood" . And how do these studio apartments address that exactly? These young couples seemed BOTH entitled and confused in their YIMBYism.

"I like this neighborhood and would like to be able to raise a family in it" doesn't seem like an entitled statement.

As for confused - you like your neighborhood too, right? So why would that statement be confusing?

This is absolutely an entitled statement. I am not sure how these white people cannot see it.

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Anonymous wrote:YIMBY's all seem to be the same person: downwardly mobile millennial white guy who feels entitled to live anywhere they want despite not being able to afford it, has a lot of issues about growing up in upper class suburbs and arrogantly believes that either everyone wants what they want or should have what they want them to have.

As with anything, women and minorities that adopt these viewpoints get promoted in media, but it's just window dressing for these incel white dudes.

it's always white people who are desperate to live in predominantly white neighborhoods. gotta wonder why they're so eager to live among other white people. there's lots of affordable housing if you dont have to live WOTP.

The obvious answer is that they are downwardly mobile but still want all of the upper middle class amenities they grew up as a kid but never bothered to actually find their own success to afford it for themselves. So they are hell bent on either trying to force the government to craft policy to give it to them or trying to negatively impact these neighborhoods out of personal spite. I swear that these people should just go to therapy and leave everyone of us alone.

DC is more affordable than it appears because salaries are so high here. Heck, the DC government pays INTERNS $40,000.

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Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.

*I* live in Wheaton... because it's where I can afford space for myself and my family. Do I wish I could have the same house in Potomac? Sure. Can't afford it. And that's OK. No one is stopping me from making more money and buying a house there. Nor does anyone owe it to me.

Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Silver Spring is very affordable

Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

DING DING DING

Anonymous wrote:You can buy a four-bedroom house for $400,000 just over the border in PG County. Seems pretty affordable to me.

Or is the argument that everyone deserves to be able to live on the South side of Eastern avenue?

Here's your argument: Want to live in my neighborhood AND have a family? Too bad. Pick one or the other, I don't want to let you have both, it would ruin my quality of life.