Anonymous
05/24/2012 07:13
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:They were suspicious because out of all the CH schools they were the highest yet anyone who visited the school knew something was of there. People don't choose it for a reason.
Reading scores plunged from 62% proficient in 2010 to 32% in 2011, when DCPS sent test monitors to LT. But, to my knowledge, nobody at the school has been held accountable, or investigated.
We're IB for Ludlow but went with Peabody. When I asked for help from Tommy Wells' office last spring to get my DC off the Peabody wait list for prek4 (we were #30, with proximity preference), I was told that LT's wonderful test scores were good enough for the likes of me.
Parents do choose LT, but generally only for little kids or special needs.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 20:48
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:Are individual school NAEP scores available? If so where?
No, it's too bad, they only look at a jurisdiction as a block. But look on their web site for many interesting stats. I was blown away by the size of the DCPS achievement gap between black and white kids despite a decade of reform, a strong indication of how thoroughly upper-middle-class blacks have abandoned the system. In Massachusetts, the highest-performing state, the white kids only score 14% advanced (more than 1/3 in DC). The NAEP results make a strong case for expanding/adding accelerated learning programs on the Hill.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 20:42
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
And in five years you will complain about overcrowding, large classrooms, and perhaps trailers.
Not us, we voted with our feet and bought a place in the Brent District.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 20:05
Subject: ludlow-taylor
I am not PP, but was also suspicious because the LT population looked a lot like maury and Brent's testing grades, but LTs scores were so much higher. The curriculum is the same. It just seemed odd.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 19:29
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Are individual school NAEP scores available? If so where?
Anonymous
05/23/2012 19:26
Subject: ludlow-taylor
They were suspicious because out of all the CH schools they were the highest yet anyone who visited the school knew something was of there. People don't choose it for a reason.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 19:24
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LT is one of the schools identifies as having a high erasure rate on the dc CAS when their test scores started rising. Good to know.
No kidding, how do you know this? Was it in the Post? Do you have a link? No surprises if this is true.
I've been hearing this for years. To my amateur eye, their scores always looked super fishy. Should DCPS ever fully investigate the test cheating, I expect LT's "But We Have Good Test Scores!" halo to quickly evaporate.
Why? What was it that made you think those could not possibly be legit?
Anonymous
05/23/2012 19:21
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:If it closes, I assure you it will not reopen. Forget about it. It is too close to union station and perfect for condo renovation.
And maybe that would be a good thing. Maury and Peabody could absorb the IB population, serving it better than LT.
And in five years you will complain about overcrowding, large classrooms, and perhaps trailers.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 18:57
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Thanks for sharing. Tommy Wells is fond of saying that even without upper-middle-class families in testing grades at a particular Hill school, test scores can be high, using J.O Wilson as the paragon. Such BS.
The scores I find the most telling are those published by the National Assessment for Educational Progress (NAEP), an education think tank working w/the US Dept. of Education to test a small percentage of students in every state, and DC, in reading and math at 4th and 8th grade. While the DC-CAS shows around 1/3 of white kids testing "advanced" in both reading and math, and 5-6% of black kids at both levels, the NAEP assessments show a significantly wider gap, with more than 1/3 of white kids testing advanced in both subjects, and only 1% of black kids testing advanced in math and 2% in reading. The wider gap suggests widespread cheating on the DC-CAS.
I'll be watching for LT's new scores, in August.
The scores I find the most telling are those published by the National Assessment for Educational Progress (NAEP), an education think tank working w/the US Dept. of Education to test a small percentage of students in every state, and DC, in reading and math at 4th and 8th grade. While the DC-CAS shows around 1/3 of white kids testing "advanced" in both reading and math, and 5-6% of black kids at both levels, the NAEP assessments show a significantly wider gap, with more than 1/3 of white kids testing advanced in both subjects, and only 1% of black kids testing advanced in math and 2% in reading. The wider gap suggests widespread cheating on the DC-CAS.
I'll be watching for LT's new scores, in August.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 18:42
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous
05/23/2012 18:39
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Ridiculously, the principal received accolades, rewards and cash bonuses for the test scores.
Anonymous
05/23/2012 18:24
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:LT is one of the schools identifies as having a high erasure rate on the dc CAS when their test scores started rising. Good to know.
No kidding, how do you know this? Was it in the Post? Do you have a link? No surprises if this is true.
I've been hearing this for years. To my amateur eye, their scores always looked super fishy. Should DCPS ever fully investigate the test cheating, I expect LT's "But We Have Good Test Scores!" halo to quickly evaporate.