Anonymous wrote:Oh god. It's like we haven't been able to watch WTU back out of agreements it signs. Repeatedly. For a year. Apparently none of that happened.

The union supporters on DCUM seem pretty divorced from reality.

This is the general schools forum. We don't all follow the DC negotiations...

My working hypothesis is that the inflammatory teacher/union supporters on DCUM are in fact working for some pro-voucher lobbying group. They just say over-the-top, baiting stuff in order to make people get mad at unions.

Oh god. It's like we haven't been able to watch WTU back out of agreements it signs. Repeatedly. For a year. Apparently none of that happened.

The union supporters on DCUM seem pretty divorced from reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Specifically, it sounds like the union is attempting to frame the debate by arguing that everyone for school opening is operating in bad faith. That's obviously not true.

Which union? Why do hysterics on this board blame the union for everything?

It's the boogeyman....nameless, faceless terror that hides under you bed and can be blamed for everything.

Anonymous wrote:Specifically, it sounds like the union is attempting to frame the debate by arguing that everyone for school opening is operating in bad faith. That's obviously not true.

Which union? Why do hysterics on this board blame the union for everything?

Specifically, it sounds like the union is attempting to frame the debate by arguing that everyone for school opening is operating in bad faith. That's obviously not true.

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Anonymous wrote:there aren’t a meaningful number of Rs here. to me this reads as the union poisoning the well.

Do you know that saying came from FALSE accusations against persecuted groups? When you say a group is poisoning a well, you are actually saying that they are the scapegoats.

That's not what poisoning the well means. Have you tried Googling anything? It means to create a pre-emptive ad hominem. This is exactly what this reads like.


https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Poisoning-the-Well

https://www.softschools.com/examples/fallacies/poisoning_the_well_examples/501/

You wouldn't happen to be a public school teacher, would you?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there aren’t a meaningful number of Rs here. to me this reads as the union poisoning the well.

Do you know that saying came from FALSE accusations against persecuted groups? When you say a group is poisoning a well, you are actually saying that they are the scapegoats.

This forum (and this city) is overwhelmingly democratic . . . but a lot of people (like me) will just be voting based on who will open schools. I no longer care about party affiliation. Everyone I know feels similarly.

That’s really stupid. Trump was in the White House when schools closed, and the mismanagement of the entire COVID crisis is the reason many schools did not not open in the fall. Betsy Devos, Trump, and the CDC (under his orders) all pushed for reopening. It still didn’t happen, because ignoring the virus doesn’t make it go away. Weird! You are buying into the Republicans push to win suburban voters by blaming “democrats” and organized labor for their own failures to prevent COVID from spreading like wildfire and killing half a million Americans. They are absolutely indifferent to you or your children. You are just a vote to them, and they’ll still be full of empty promises that put business and banks first and the people dead last. If you’re not smart enough to see through that, then you deserve the horrible policy you get when you vote for these people.

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Anonymous wrote:there aren’t a meaningful number of Rs here. to me this reads as the union poisoning the well.

Do you know that saying came from FALSE accusations against persecuted groups? When you say a group is poisoning a well, you are actually saying that they are the scapegoats.

This forum (and this city) is overwhelmingly democratic . . . but a lot of people (like me) will just be voting based on who will open schools. I no longer care about party affiliation. Everyone I know feels similarly.

Anonymous wrote:I am as democrat as it gets, but there is nothing more important right now than (safely) reopening schools. When schools in the rest of the US are reopening, and schools in Europe barely closed, it is unconscionable that kids in MoCo have not been in school for a year.

This is a flat out lie. Lots of school closures in the EU since the post-Christmas emergence of the UK variant.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-how-are-other-eu-countries-dealing-with-schools-1.4466755

OP, your argument makes zilch sense. If that's the case, explain to me the positions of Europe's CDC (https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/children-and-school-settings-covid-19-transmission) and reasonable re-opening guidance like this from a variety of university public health experts: https://globalepidemics.org/2020/12/18/schools-and-the-path-to-zero-strategies-for-pandemic-resilience-in-the-face-of-high-community-spread/

Anonymous wrote:there aren’t a meaningful number of Rs here. to me this reads as the union poisoning the well.

Do you know that saying came from FALSE accusations against persecuted groups? When you say a group is poisoning a well, you are actually saying that they are the scapegoats.

It is political.
Allocation of resources in any municipality is done by political leaders. Priorities are set by those same leaders.

Frankly, the politics of race has played a large role in shuttering schools. Minorities have been hit hard by Covid - and have not demanded schools reopen out of well founded health concerns.

In the name of “equity” politicians have kept schools closed. The DMV has a large minority population and no leader wants to prioritize an issue that is not supported by a large group of people.

Of course it’s political in the DMV.

Everyone likes to claim keeping schools closed is political but no one can ever answer what would be the possible political advantage to keeping them closed unnecessarily? There is none. Zero. It is a stupid, small minded talking point. Every municipality is managing this differently and we won’t know for some time who made the right call. Not until the dust has settled and the data are sorted will we know.

I am as democrat as it gets, but there is nothing more important right now than (safely) reopening schools. When schools in the rest of the US are reopening, and schools in Europe barely closed, it is unconscionable that kids in MoCo have not been in school for a year.