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Anonymous wrote:I was friends with, knew or hung out with a lot of these celebrities mentioned in this thread back in the day. So many, this thread is trip down memory lane. The stories I could tell but I won’t.

But I will say this: Britney was crazy then. Legit mentally ill. She was late teens and was completely out of control. Justin would bitch about how crazy she was constantly. She got some *unusual* piercings one night and he was ticked. He also was cheating on her hard core with a different girl or two every night. I witnessed this on many occasions until he dated Cameron then he behaved himself for a while.

But the way he acted all wounded and victimized with his Cry Me A River video was pure manipulation for exposure. Britney made Justin. JC was the talent. As far as celebs, he is the biggest jerk I ever met. For the record, Britney is just as she seems, sweet, genuine, simple, insecure, unstable and damaged.

Back then she was so gorgeous, it made you uncomfortable to stand next to her. But if she did not have that conservatorship, she would be dead y’all. Dead. She would’ve joined the 27 club long ago.

Why won’t you?

Anonymous wrote:I was friends with, knew or hung out with a lot of these celebrities mentioned in this thread back in the day. So many, this thread is trip down memory lane. The stories I could tell but I won’t.

But I will say this: Britney was crazy then. Legit mentally ill. She was late teens and was completely out of control. Justin would bitch about how crazy she was constantly. She got some *unusual* piercings one night and he was ticked. He also was cheating on her hard core with a different girl or two every night. I witnessed this on many occasions until he dated Cameron then he behaved himself for a while.

But the way he acted all wounded and victimized with his Cry Me A River video was pure manipulation for exposure. Britney made Justin. JC was the talent. As far as celebs, he is the biggest jerk I ever met. For the record, Britney is just as she seems, sweet, genuine, simple, insecure, unstable and damaged.

Back then she was so gorgeous, it made you uncomfortable to stand next to her. But if she did not have that conservatorship, she would be dead y’all. Dead. She would’ve joined the 27 club long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I have zero interest in watching this show and have never been much of a Britney follower, but agree with the PP that she’d be dead now had her father not intervened. She’d also be broke. The fact that K Fed got custody of her kids says all we need to know.

My lifelong BFF taught her sons in the valley outside of LA. She had nothing but very nice things to say about both Britney and Kevin. Kevin is the primary parent, he is very involved and serious with their sons. Britney is very pleasant and sweet but seemed a bit immature and more of a weekend parent. Kevin was the one doing the homework with the boys, checking on their tests, conferencing with teachers, etc. He was the stability. Britney is a lovely person, but the boys were better off primarily with Kevin.

Anonymous wrote:So I read somewhere that prior to her father becoming the conservator, Britney had been in debt. Under her father’s watch, her net worth went up to $60M.

This documentary, while interesting, really only shows one side of the story. I feel bad for Britney, but I also feel like her father has her in the best interest.

Anonymous wrote:I would think if there was any legitimacy to Britney not needing to be under conservatorship her sister would get involved to help her.

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Anonymous wrote:Watching now. What is it that she supposedly did that broke JT’s heart?

Cheated with a dancer or something

Anonymous wrote:Well it looks like the conservatorship was all about covering up financial crimes by members of brits family. Her uncle, father, brother (and possibly many others in her various “teams”) were involved in some type of tax fraud. The push to have her work from 2008-2018 was to help pay back millions in back taxes owed by money mismanagement. So sad.

Anonymous wrote:Watching now. What is it that she supposedly did that broke JT’s heart?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like folks posting here are largely ignorant of the very strong legal protections for persons with mental illness and other incapacities under California law especially.

There is simply no way that a conservatorship would remain in place after such a length of time absent substantial clinical evidence, provided to the court by medical professionals, that she is incompetent to manage her own affairs. The court would not insist on keeping her father in place as conservator if there was any credible evidence he’s abused that position (conservators must provide very detailed reports to the court on a regular basis, at least annually if not more often), and the fact that the court has reaffirmed him as conservator repeatedly despite her efforts to have him removed rather suggests that her objections to him are viewed by the court as stemming not from any substantive failure on his part to carry out the duties properly, but is rather likely rooted in her incapacity.

For those who argue she can’t be incompetent and carry on her career as she is - please remember she is in the one industry in the world where a talented person can carry on working despite serious incapacity, because outrageous behavior is tolerated and most artists have an entourage of individuals buffering them in their interactions with the real world. She just has to show up, dance and sing.

Having a fair bit of experience in the field of law at issue, I have zero concern that she isn’t being protected by the system. The very fact that movies like this are out, and a whole fan movement, and her repeated opportunities to challenge aspects of the conservatorship in court, all points to her being free to speak out without fear.

I can guess at what her diagnoses are, but certainly they are not inconsequential by any means. I wish her healing and am deeply sorry for her that so many people who consider themselves her fans that care about her are actually feeding into her paranoia and fueling her disease with the whole ‘free Brittney’ thing.

I’m sorry, but having watched two judges let alleged insurrectionists go on vacation internationally while they’re out on bail, I don’t have quite the same faith in the legal system that you have.

YES!

Conservatorships are only granted by the court for adults with a mental disorder as listed in the ​Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV) and who are gravely disabled. ​Conservatorships are granted for people with:

​Schizophrenia
​​​​Bi-Polar disorder (manic depression)
​Schizoaffective disorder
​​Clinical depression
​Obsessive compulsive disorder
​Chronic alcoholism