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My DH is a principal in LCPS. He claims full 5-day in person isn’t arriving until one more year. January 2022.

Why? As you can see the vaccine rollout isn’t the panacea because there is no coordinated and coherent logistics behind it. Children don’t have vaccines. And won’t until late Summer best case scenario.

You can’t expect people to go into so called Petri dishes just because they have it - and not all staff members are taking it despite the hype on these boards. He personally has accounted up to 14% of his school’s force that will not take it due to health conditions or refusal. Specifics aren’t provided in his survey.

His main fear is Mondays becoming asynchronous forever. As in, that’s the new normal even when covid disappears. Which I’m not so sure it will be... but that’s another story.

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My DH is a principal in LCPS. He claims full 5-day in person isn’t arriving until one more year. January 2022.

Why? As you can see the vaccine rollout isn’t the panacea because there is no coordinated and coherent logistics behind it. Children don’t have vaccines. And won’t until late Summer best case scenario.

You can’t expect people to go into so called Petri dishes just because they have it - and not all staff members are taking it despite the hype on these boards. He personally has accounted up to 14% of his school’s force that will not take it due to health conditions or refusal. Specifics aren’t provided in his survey.

His main fear is Mondays becoming asynchronous forever. As in, that’s the new normal even when covid disappears. Which I’m not so sure it will be... but that’s another story.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

I doubt distance is a mitigation measure in Fall. Rather it’ll likely be centered around ongoing mask usage.

But the SB is sooooo hung up on distance measures. As recently as December they were deep in the weeds about putting 6’ markers on the floor and stuff. They’re way off on another planet here with the “mitigation” factors.

They change their minds about everything at the drop of the hat (or rather, somebody goes off on a complete tangent, it snowballs from there, then they punt and delay any decisions for another month). Anyway, masks and distance are the two primary mitigation measures they've had available. Now, vaccinations--the best mitigation measure of all--are starting to enter the equation. By this spring, they'll have to start considering the question of returning students with teachers that have been vaccinated this wave.

Since the Union/association’s support for closures (and therefore the SB’s support for them) has very little to do with COVID, it may be a long time until we see normal around here... if ever. Don’t believe me? These are their “demands.” https://www.demandsafeschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Jan_12_day_of_resistance.pdf

Nowhere on the list of endorsements do I see NEA/FEA or AFT/FCFT.

Endorsers: Action Now Institute, Arizona Educators United, Chicago Teachers Union, Boston Teachers Union, Federación
de Maestros de Puerto Rico, United Teachers Los Angeles, St. Paul Federation of Educators, Journey For Justice, Center for
Popular Democracy, Denver Classroom Teachers Association, Kentucky Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression, St.
Paul Federation of Educators, Milwaukee Teachers Education Association, National Educators United, Racine Educators United,
Little Rock Education Association, Oakland Education Association, Teamsters Local 3012 Philadelphia, Democratic Socialists
of America, Movement of Rank and File Educators, The Peralta Federation of Teachers, AFT local 1603, Grassroots Education
Movement, Leaders Igniting Transformation (LIT), Youth Empowered in the Struggle (YES), Working Families Party (WFP)
Milwaukee, Working Educators Philadelphia, Massachusetts Teachers Association, Tennessee Teachers United, United
Working Families 50th Ward Independent Political Organization, United Teachers of Richmond, Virginia Educators United, The Sunrise Movement, Mijente, Labor Network for Sustainability, Save Our Schools Kentucky

Anonymous wrote:This board has been pretty right about predicting the state of things in the past. Assuming vaccinations of teachers start at the end of January, when do you think in-person, 5 day a week, teaching will happen (for those who want it.) If you personally wouldn’t go back, then answer when you think schools will be open for others to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

I doubt distance is a mitigation measure in Fall. Rather it’ll likely be centered around ongoing mask usage.

But the SB is sooooo hung up on distance measures. As recently as December they were deep in the weeds about putting 6’ markers on the floor and stuff. They’re way off on another planet here with the “mitigation” factors.

They change their minds about everything at the drop of the hat (or rather, somebody goes off on a complete tangent, it snowballs from there, then they punt and delay any decisions for another month). Anyway, masks and distance are the two primary mitigation measures they've had available. Now, vaccinations--the best mitigation measure of all--are starting to enter the equation. By this spring, they'll have to start considering the question of returning students with teachers that have been vaccinated this wave.

Since the Union/association’s support for closures (and therefore the SB’s support for them) has very little to do with COVID, it may be a long time until we see normal around here... if ever. Don’t believe me? These are their “demands.” https://www.demandsafeschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Jan_12_day_of_resistance.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

I doubt distance is a mitigation measure in Fall. Rather it’ll likely be centered around ongoing mask usage.

But the SB is sooooo hung up on distance measures. As recently as December they were deep in the weeds about putting 6’ markers on the floor and stuff. They’re way off on another planet here with the “mitigation” factors.

They change their minds about everything at the drop of the hat (or rather, somebody goes off on a complete tangent, it snowballs from there, then they punt and delay any decisions for another month). Anyway, masks and distance are the two primary mitigation measures they've had available. Now, vaccinations--the best mitigation measure of all--are starting to enter the equation. By this spring, they'll have to start considering the question of returning students with teachers that have been vaccinated this wave.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

I doubt distance is a mitigation measure in Fall. Rather it’ll likely be centered around ongoing mask usage.

But the SB is sooooo hung up on distance measures. As recently as December they were deep in the weeds about putting 6’ markers on the floor and stuff. They’re way off on another planet here with the “mitigation” factors.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

I doubt distance is a mitigation measure in Fall. Rather it’ll likely be centered around ongoing mask usage.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.

There's still no room for 3 ft apart. Prior to the pandemic the kids were all sitting right next to each other, desks were touching, etc. One of the very early presentations I think had like 18 kids in a room at 3 ft apart. Still not good enough for 5 days a week.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we think N. Virginia schools will ever go back to 5-day-week instruction or will we continue on with 4 days a week in coming years? I could see how some (not parents) would advocate for only teaching full classes 4 days a week. Wondered if any of the local school boards or superintendents have addressed this.

No. I think teachers will lobby to keep their "planning day" even after everyone is vaccinated and the pandemic is over.

Of course we are going back to 5-days.

You really shouldn't assume this. Plenty of posters on here (even in this thread) are talking about how they won't feel comfortable sending their kids back until they are vaccinated and those clinical trials have barely begun yet. If schools are required to staff both, it's not clear to me that they can.

And they still made me to use mitigation strategies like 6 ft of social distancing and masks. There's no way to go in 5 days a week if the kids don't need to be 6 ft apart.

Once all the staff are vaccinated, the six feet apart thing is not necessary.

So that's what each county administration needs to decide. If the teachers are vaccinated, are they okay with kids sitting three feet apart, with masks on, for five days per week school. There is no room, at least in APS, to have all the kids in the schools all day long, and sit six feet apart. That's why they had to do hybrid in the first place, to have 50% or less of students max, physically present in the school.

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. You can still pass on the virus if you are vaccinated. You just are less likely to get seriously ill.