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Anonymous wrote:I think part of what makes this laughable to many people in the private sector is that we don’t get nearly the input into the terms of our employment that teachers are demanding right now. Plenty of employers have been requiring people to return to working in-office, and those employees have no say in whether they get to do that. If your employer doesn’t think the job is being done well enough remotely, they can order people back to the office and that’s that. That teachers feel confident they can speak out, at times saying some very disrespectful things about the administration, without repercussions, is quite the privilege.

FFS are they making you sit in an enclosed poorly ventilated room for 7 hrs with mask optional coworkers?

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I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

I haven't used a public bathroom at all since March. I've been working from home and we don't take long road trips.

My spouse has a small bladder though and has done it several times.

I keep following the 15 minute exposure guidance. If I can get in and out in 15 minutes (masked), I'll be fine. Public bathrooms fall into that category. Many places have made their bathrooms single occupancy which is reassuring too.

A school bathroom will not be single occupancy.

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Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

??? I don't know a single doctor or nurse, pediatrics or otherwise, advocating for schools to open. All the doctors and nurses I know are refusing to send their kids to school in person.

Then you must not know very many. What are they all supposed to do with their kids by the way while they work? I know of multiple nurses/doctors who are sending their kids where schools are open, or, want to send their kids when APS opens.

So...the doctors and nurses you know support opening schools just because they need childcare?

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I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

I haven't used a public bathroom at all since March. I've been working from home and we don't take long road trips.

My spouse has a small bladder though and has done it several times.

I keep following the 15 minute exposure guidance. If I can get in and out in 15 minutes (masked), I'll be fine. Public bathrooms fall into that category. Many places have made their bathrooms single occupancy which is reassuring too.

A school bathroom will not be single occupancy.

Anonymous wrote:I think part of what makes this laughable to many people in the private sector is that we don’t get nearly the input into the terms of our employment that teachers are demanding right now. Plenty of employers have been requiring people to return to working in-office, and those employees have no say in whether they get to do that. If your employer doesn’t think the job is being done well enough remotely, they can order people back to the office and that’s that. That teachers feel confident they can speak out, at times saying some very disrespectful things about the administration, without repercussions, is quite the privilege.

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I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

I haven't used a public bathroom at all since March. I've been working from home and we don't take long road trips.

My spouse has a small bladder though and has done it several times.

I keep following the 15 minute exposure guidance. If I can get in and out in 15 minutes (masked), I'll be fine. Public bathrooms fall into that category. Many places have made their bathrooms single occupancy which is reassuring too.

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Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

??? I don't know a single doctor or nurse, pediatrics or otherwise, advocating for schools to open. All the doctors and nurses I know are refusing to send their kids to school in person.

Then you must not know very many. What are they all supposed to do with their kids by the way while they work? I know of multiple nurses/doctors who are sending their kids where schools are open, or, want to send their kids when APS opens.

Anonymous wrote:I think part of what makes this laughable to many people in the private sector is that we don’t get nearly the input into the terms of our employment that teachers are demanding right now. Plenty of employers have been requiring people to return to working in-office, and those employees have no say in whether they get to do that. If your employer doesn’t think the job is being done well enough remotely, they can order people back to the office and that’s that. That teachers feel confident they can speak out, at times saying some very disrespectful things about the administration, without repercussions, is quite the privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

Whatever “ped er”. Increase in child mental health problems could be from parents sick with COVID, economic stresses from job loss, parents fighting over appropriate Covid protocols, and ok and on. Going back to school fixes little of that. Kids aren’t curfewed, parents who are comfortable can have their kids meet up with other kids; parents who aren’t won’t send their kids to school. Correlation is not causation, if the increase in ped mental health is even real.

This. Absent the pandemic, one could say DL is responsible for the rise in mental health issues, but WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC. Stress is up everywhere. Many families have been affected by, or know someone affected by, this virus. School isn't going to fix that.

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Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

??? I don't know a single doctor or nurse, pediatrics or otherwise, advocating for schools to open. All the doctors and nurses I know are refusing to send their kids to school in person.

Anonymous wrote:I think part of what makes this laughable to many people in the private sector is that we don’t get nearly the input into the terms of our employment that teachers are demanding right now. Plenty of employers have been requiring people to return to working in-office, and those employees have no say in whether they get to do that. If your employer doesn’t think the job is being done well enough remotely, they can order people back to the office and that’s that. That teachers feel confident they can speak out, at times saying some very disrespectful things about the administration, without repercussions, is quite the privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

Whatever “ped er”. Increase in child mental health problems could be from parents sick with COVID, economic stresses from job loss, parents fighting over appropriate Covid protocols, and ok and on. Going back to school fixes little of that. Kids aren’t curfewed, parents who are comfortable can have their kids meet up with other kids; parents who aren’t won’t send their kids to school. Correlation is not causation, if the increase in ped mental health is even real.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

??? I don't know a single doctor or nurse, pediatrics or otherwise, advocating for schools to open. All the doctors and nurses I know are refusing to send their kids to school in person.

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard