Anonymous wrote:For most competitive colleges to get admitted as native american you have to be registered with a tribe and show evidence of that. You need a number. It is not trivial and not "checking a box". If you knew anything about this topic you would know that.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a big push to add MENA designation to the census. My guess is that it will succeed eventually. Whether it helps on college admissions, I don't know. Fwiw I work on issues related to the Middle East and most of my younger colleagues who are of Arab/Iranian descent consider themselves to be POC.

Can you give an explanation to this instead of simply assuming people are supposed to know what Mena is?

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should flag it somewhere. Maybe “other?” I don’t think Arab Americans consider themselves white, right? And most white people don’t consider arab Americans white.

It depends. Arabs are diverse. While most have darker complexions, some are very white and have blue or green eyes. Others like Sudanese are very dark and more African-looking.

This is true. I’m married to a lighter skin Arab man, and I definitely think his family considers themselves white, although it’s never come up in conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Most half AA kids are simply treated as AA by US society. They aren’t unfairly taking advantage of anything.

You think Megan Markle and Mariah Carey were treated as black by U.S society?

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Anonymous wrote:If the college wants to boost their stats, it's how you mark the box, not what you write in the essay. They don't go reading each essay when generating their stats. The essay serves a different purpose, also beneficial though.

You need to look at the college. I'm half Asian and half White. I chose the race that worked best for me for each college, based on their stats. For example, Iowa State is 3.5% Asian so it's better to be Asian than white there: https://www.registrar.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/stats/minority/Fall%202020%20Multicultural%20reports.pdf

If you lie on a college application, they can kick you out. If you lie on the FAFSA or financial aid documents, it is a Federal offense. I think there is a lot of bad information being given, and most people either do not know or do not care about the actual rules, but feigning ignorance is not a defense.

How is it lying? I'm 50% Asian, and 50% White. Why can't I identify with either of those?

You can identify as Native American if that is how you identify. Who is the school to tell you how you identify? They won’t dispute that you identify as the race you put on your application. How could they disprove what a person identifies as?

Anonymous wrote:Most half AA kids are simply treated as AA by US society. They aren’t unfairly taking advantage of anything.

Anonymous wrote:There's a big push to add MENA designation to the census. My guess is that it will succeed eventually. Whether it helps on college admissions, I don't know. Fwiw I work on issues related to the Middle East and most of my younger colleagues who are of Arab/Iranian descent consider themselves to be POC.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you should flag it somewhere. Maybe “other?” I don’t think Arab Americans consider themselves white, right? And most white people don’t consider arab Americans white.

It depends. Arabs are diverse. While most have darker complexions, some are very white and have blue or green eyes. Others like Sudanese are very dark and more African-looking.

Anonymous wrote:Colleges want under represented minorities, not just any kind. Middle easterners aren't considered URM, so even though they have been subjected to prejudices it doesn't count for the college who wants to brag about their diversity. You're better off if you can find a great great grandparent who was pacific islander.

and yes, if you have any african roots, check off black. You'd surprised by how many rich, white kids are checking minority boxes under dubious situations.

Anonymous wrote:For most competitive colleges to get admitted as native american you have to be registered with a tribe and show evidence of that. You need a number. It is not trivial and not "checking a box". If you knew anything about this topic you would know that.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many Arabs who live in North Africa. So what you’re all really saying is that, despite one’s skin color, one can only be considered POC if they have sub-Saharan African or Native American ancestry.

Nope, I consider most Asians as well as Aborigines and Polynesians POC. But there are people who have lived in Asia for generations who are 100% European. They are not POC.

Wait what? So you’re administering a purity test around who gets to be considered Asian.

Dp.. omg.. you can't be serious.

There is a difference between nationality, race and ethnicity.

I am Asian American - nationality
I am Asian - race
I am Korean - ethnicity

So, even if a white person was born in Asian, that person is still racially not Asian.

I can't believe we keep having this conversation.

So what percent Korean do you have to be to be considered Korean? Don’t you realize the problems with what you’re saying?

no, I don't.

But since you asked.. I did a DNA test and found I'm 100% Korean.

BTW, my kids are 50% Korean and 50% some European. They say they are half of each because.. that's what they are.

My question stands: What % Korean do you need to be to be considered Korean?