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Anonymous wrote:OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

That was the old days. Now that process would be considered “gate-keeping” and instead an “informed consent” model is followed. You should read up on what is currently happening.

OK, so that's an outright lie. Actually transitioning (not just using "they/them" or changing clothes styles) is an intensive process involving therapy, psychological assessments, intense discussions before starting any sort of medical interventions, etc.

People like you and the bullies that shut down school board meetings and hijack educational policy act like little Suzie comes home one day, says his name is Billy, and it's off to the surgeon the very next day.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

No kid anywhere? What about Jazz Jennings?

Never heard of her, but a quick Google session suggests she wasn't diagnosed with gender dysphoria until she was five, even theough she self-identified as female as soon as she could talk, and waited until she was 18 to undergo transition surgery.

Also: Outliers. They're a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember hating getting breasts at 12. I was developing before friends and I really didn’t want to grow up. I also played soccer competitively and this was before sports bras, etc. I remember trying to push them down.

I grew out of it. I have always been heterosexual.

I was a competitive gymnast & hated getting breasts. As a teen, I wore bras & clothes that made them look as flat as possible. Even as an adult, I’m a bit self-conscious about them. I think many teams are uncomfortable with their bodies. But I never felt like or wanted to be anything other than a straight girl/woman, so I’m not sure if that’s relevant to OP’s daughter.

The difference is today girls are told that if they are uncomfortable with their body they are trans and that “top surgery” will make those feelings go away.

OP, your daughter sounds a lot like me, but 30 years ago.
I hated my body “blooming”. I wore androgynous clothes, mostly to avoid comments/looks about my body. Of course it backfired and I was called a butch and dyke. But somehow, at the time, I’d rather be a butch or dyke than called a bimbo or slut just for having boobs. I literally wanted no attention, and thought I could achieve that by looking as plain as possible. I think if being trans was a thing back then, I might have identified.
I really didn’t fully embrace being a woman until my mid 20s. I remember being in a shop with a good friend, and someone called me a guy. I didn’t correct them. After we left the shop, she asked me why I wanted to look like a guy. And for the first time, I really thought about it and realized that I was just hiding to avoid being stereotyped, but I was still being stereotyped, just in a different way. I made the “transition” (pun intended!) to dressing like a woman, wearing jewelry, makeup, etc.
I’m straight, married, 2 awesome kids. I’m glad there wasn’t an option to really question my gender at that age.

Anonymous wrote:OP, I remember hating getting breasts at 12. I was developing before friends and I really didn’t want to grow up. I also played soccer competitively and this was before sports bras, etc. I remember trying to push them down.

I grew out of it. I have always been heterosexual.

I was a competitive gymnast & hated getting breasts. As a teen, I wore bras & clothes that made them look as flat as possible. Even as an adult, I’m a bit self-conscious about them. I think many teams are uncomfortable with their bodies. But I never felt like or wanted to be anything other than a straight girl/woman, so I’m not sure if that’s relevant to OP’s daughter.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter has started they/them pronouns and I’m having a hard time with it. She is 18 and I feel like it’s a lot different then being 11 or 12. I’m suspicious that too many Instagram or TikTok influencers are getting to her. Personally I don’t like this whole part of the “woke” agenda and I’ll only come across as being a Trumper (Hell no, I’m not) if I say anything. So I say nothing, and secretly cry because I want my beautiful daughter to be a girl.

You may benefit from joining a PFLAG group for families of transgender people. The PFLAG site has a place to search by zip code. There is also information on the site, and articles that you may find helpful.

https://pflag.org/

OP, I remember hating getting breasts at 12. I was developing before friends and I really didn’t want to grow up. I also played soccer competitively and this was before sports bras, etc. I remember trying to push them down.

I grew out of it. I have always been heterosexual.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

That was the old days. Now that process would be considered “gate-keeping” and instead an “informed consent” model is followed. You should read up on what is currently happening.

Anonymous wrote:OP here, one more thing: I found a therapist that does Tapping for trauma and anxiety, and after one session DD is already feeling less stressed and anxious.

Just for this, thank you. Doctor told my kid about CBT and said it would take 12-16 weeks. Tapping could work a lot sooner.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

Well, it is long, but getting hormones is not very difficult with parental consent, and of course if you’re 18, you don’t need a parent’s permission. The other parts are long…social transition, hair removal for trans women, if you want surgery that can take time, money, recovery time. It is a long process but not that hard to start the process. I don’t KNOW if you always need a therapist, although we have one. But they don’t generally tell you what you should do. Honestly, I know that for my AMAB kid, it’s stressful, hair removal is painful, talking to doctors are intimate stuff is embarrassing. I don’t know what it’s like for trans men but my kid is pretty set on this and willingly endures pain.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. I took a college course at a liberal university on psych of gender. What makes you trans is that you felt like you were born in the wrong body. You hate your body and it feels wrong. Not that you don’t like dresses or stereotypically feminine things. Lord most lesbians would be trans if it were simply gender. Trans mean you are the wrong SEX. Gender can be whatever. I mean, I’m into cars and sports and I never wear heels but it didn’t occur to me to become a male. I’m just a woman who didn’t subscribe to these superficial things. I also don’t think my son was born the wrong sex because he loves pink and is incredibly sensitive and loves horses. I think this witch hunt is ridiculous and I hope JK Rowling gets her apology.

This exactly. There are trans people but they are rare. They know from when they are small. They need support and love. But the free-for-all BS that is going on right now and the complete inability for anyone to question anything without being labeled a transphobe is out of hand.

Not all trans people know when they are little. I thought this too, but often puberty will bring up feelings of dysphoria when your body starts changing. I’m just telling you because I believed that too. It’s what you see in the media on shows like I Am Jazz and such.

I have an older trans teen (AMAB), and I admit that I also noticed the large group of natal girls identifying as NB or trans even before my kid came out. The thing is that if your kid is older, you really only have so many choices between not accepting and pushing them away and accepting. If I’d had a natal girl, I would have probably not let her start hormones before 18 because puberty would have basically been over, but boys continue to get more masculine, so we let our child go on hormones.

Anonymous wrote:OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

No kid anywhere? What about Jazz Jennings?

My daughter has started they/them pronouns and I’m having a hard time with it. She is 18 and I feel like it’s a lot different then being 11 or 12. I’m suspicious that too many Instagram or TikTok influencers are getting to her. Personally I don’t like this whole part of the “woke” agenda and I’ll only come across as being a Trumper (Hell no, I’m not) if I say anything. So I say nothing, and secretly cry because I want my beautiful daughter to be a girl.

OP, you do know that actually transitioning genders is a long, complicated process and that no kid anywhere is reassigned simply because they say they're trans, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I send my kids to a very religious school. They won't let the students talk about this stuff. And I'm glad.

Fyi, Muslim schools do not have any trans, gay, lesbian students.

Your kids are at a Muslim school in the states? Or abroad?

Yes, in the states. There are many good ones.