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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

If a child is being harmed by an individual I think you start by calling the police. If the individual is a parent who does not have any physical custody, I don’t think cps makes sense. Unless the primary parent were allowing the non custodial parent to care for / abuse the child. But if the primary parent is keeping the child away from a dangerous non custodial parent, it sounds like that’s what’s supposed to happen, and if the non custodial parent is staying away and therefore not abusing the child, there isn’t a crime to investigate

Do CPS investigate crimes? The report has already been made (by a mandatory reporter) and the children are not in danger because they are being kept away from the unfit parent. So the question is, what happens with the investigation and what do they do? They will certainly find that the parent is incapable of caring for them at this point in time.

If a report was made that the child’s welfare was in danger due to the non custodial parent they’ll come and investigate you and the child’s home and probably also the other parent, to make sure the other parent doesn’t currently have access to the child. But if the other parent is out of the picture because they are unfit, what exactly
Got reported? Was it reported they were being abused so you kicked him out? They’ll come investigate and make sure he’s kicked out I’m assuming. But the police should be charging him?

The issue is that the other parent is no longer able to feed, clothe or generally care for the children, or properly understand what is involved with caring for them. The unfit parent does not accept this even though it is obvious to anyone with expertise in this area, or even a casual bystander. It is possible that this impairment may be temporary. In attempting to change the custody agreement to safeguard the children, details of the parent’s (recent) past behavior were shared in court which in turn led to a report to CPS. So the question is what will CPS do?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

If a child is being harmed by an individual I think you start by calling the police. If the individual is a parent who does not have any physical custody, I don’t think cps makes sense. Unless the primary parent were allowing the non custodial parent to care for / abuse the child. But if the primary parent is keeping the child away from a dangerous non custodial parent, it sounds like that’s what’s supposed to happen, and if the non custodial parent is staying away and therefore not abusing the child, there isn’t a crime to investigate

Do CPS investigate crimes? The report has already been made (by a mandatory reporter) and the children are not in danger because they are being kept away from the unfit parent. So the question is, what happens with the investigation and what do they do? They will certainly find that the parent is incapable of caring for them at this point in time.

But if they don’t have custody and aren’t around the child, then the court already established they are unfit. Not sure what CPS does in this situation. I’m not sure they’d do anything. “This child’s father has schizophrenia and is homeless and we haven’t seen him in a year and he has no custody” doesn’t sound like the child’s welfare is in danger so what is there to get reported?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

If a child is being harmed by an individual I think you start by calling the police. If the individual is a parent who does not have any physical custody, I don’t think cps makes sense. Unless the primary parent were allowing the non custodial parent to care for / abuse the child. But if the primary parent is keeping the child away from a dangerous non custodial parent, it sounds like that’s what’s supposed to happen, and if the non custodial parent is staying away and therefore not abusing the child, there isn’t a crime to investigate

Do CPS investigate crimes? The report has already been made (by a mandatory reporter) and the children are not in danger because they are being kept away from the unfit parent. So the question is, what happens with the investigation and what do they do? They will certainly find that the parent is incapable of caring for them at this point in time.

If a report was made that the child’s welfare was in danger due to the non custodial parent they’ll come and investigate you and the child’s home and probably also the other parent, to make sure the other parent doesn’t currently have access to the child. But if the other parent is out of the picture because they are unfit, what exactly
Got reported? Was it reported they were being abused so you kicked him out? They’ll come investigate and make sure he’s kicked out I’m assuming. But the police should be charging him?

I had a pediatrician threaten me with CPS. She wanted me to see her doctor cousin at John’s Hopkins and said, if I didn’t, she’d call CPS.

She spent 90 minutes talking at us and then said, at minute 85, “I almost forgot to check the baby!”

My husband threatened her back regarding her medical license, and she backed off on calling CPS.

We had gone to that doctor for a second opinion on low birth weight on the recommendation of a neighbor. The husband-wife doctors had bought a neighborhood medical practice.

As you can guess, that doctor was off her rocker.

When we went back to our original pediatrician at a practice with 15 unrelated doctors, she said she’d stick up for us and that we were always welcome to get a second opinion at their practice.

That baby is a healthy and happy college student now, and we still use the same practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

Are you the poster whose husband just got out of jail? If so, I’d definitely ask your attorney next steps.

No, but can you link to that thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

If a child is being harmed by an individual I think you start by calling the police. If the individual is a parent who does not have any physical custody, I don’t think cps makes sense. Unless the primary parent were allowing the non custodial parent to care for / abuse the child. But if the primary parent is keeping the child away from a dangerous non custodial parent, it sounds like that’s what’s supposed to happen, and if the non custodial parent is staying away and therefore not abusing the child, there isn’t a crime to investigate

Do CPS investigate crimes? The report has already been made (by a mandatory reporter) and the children are not in danger because they are being kept away from the unfit parent. So the question is, what happens with the investigation and what do they do? They will certainly find that the parent is incapable of caring for them at this point in time.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

Are you the poster whose husband just got out of jail? If so, I’d definitely ask your attorney next steps.

Wait til you hear what happens to you in California if you call your kid the wrong pronouns…

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

If a child is being harmed by an individual I think you start by calling the police. If the individual is a parent who does not have any physical custody, I don’t think cps makes sense. Unless the primary parent were allowing the non custodial parent to care for / abuse the child. But if the primary parent is keeping the child away from a dangerous non custodial parent, it sounds like that’s what’s supposed to happen, and if the non custodial parent is staying away and therefore not abusing the child, there isn’t a crime to investigate

Does anyone know the process when the parent does not have physical custody of the children at the time of the investigation? Meaning that there are no children to remove and the other parent is not likely to give the parent under investigation access to the children (because they are clearly incapable of caring for them safely at that time). Is a report made and held on file for future circumstances that might include access to the children? Or what could the outcome be?

My sister was very overwhelmed by parenting. She has a major mental illness and was sending her kids to school without coats. This is in the South, so, not a safety issue but a judgement call in a place without regular freezing temps.

Someone (probably at the school) called it in to CPS and nothing really happened but a quick home visit.

Keep in mind that you hear the most sensational cases, but many, many more people have an interaction with the system that does not become serious.

To be real, in my sister's case, she did need a wakeup call as her house is very messy, but it would not have been better for her kids to lose their family. There are few situations where that is in the best interest of the kids. I really do think that we have a hair trigger on our foster care system even though my family interactions have been appropriately handled. The extreme cases are just too tragic.

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Anonymous wrote:I have had one friend get investigated. Kid was a daredevil and unfortunately wound up with 3 sets of stitches and a broken arm over the course of 4 months. The process for her was not too painful.

As a mandated reporter, I have called CPS once when I found out in the end it wasn't abuse. I feel bad that the family had to go through the process, but I've also reported times when it was abuse. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Families that have cps called and it turns out to be false should be able to pursue legal remedies against the person who called and lied. If it were me in that situation I wouldn’t rest until I got some sort of revenge against the person that called.

You can easily bring charges against a false reporter. If this happens to you, get an attorney for consult immediately. There are measures in place to protect parents nowadays. I think CPS became tired of problematic and/or vengeful neighbors' false reporting, etc.

Easily? Pray tell me, what is the process, and do you have even one example of this happening?

Yes, my best friend is an attorney for CPS. Parents don't pursue it often (most reporters know better than to make a false or malicious report), but it definitely does happen.

You didn't answer the question. What is the process?

This happened to me, and we had to make a big stink. They wouldn't even tell us the name of the person who made the report - we had to figure it out ourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I have had one friend get investigated. Kid was a daredevil and unfortunately wound up with 3 sets of stitches and a broken arm over the course of 4 months. The process for her was not too painful.

As a mandated reporter, I have called CPS once when I found out in the end it wasn't abuse. I feel bad that the family had to go through the process, but I've also reported times when it was abuse. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Families that have cps called and it turns out to be false should be able to pursue legal remedies against the person who called and lied. If it were me in that situation I wouldn’t rest until I got some sort of revenge against the person that called.

You can easily bring charges against a false reporter. If this happens to you, get an attorney for consult immediately. There are measures in place to protect parents nowadays. I think CPS became tired of problematic and/or vengeful neighbors' false reporting, etc.

Easily? Pray tell me, what is the process, and do you have even one example of this happening?

Yes, my best friend is an attorney for CPS. Parents don't pursue it often (most reporters know better than to make a false or malicious report), but it definitely does happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I have had one friend get investigated. Kid was a daredevil and unfortunately wound up with 3 sets of stitches and a broken arm over the course of 4 months. The process for her was not too painful.

As a mandated reporter, I have called CPS once when I found out in the end it wasn't abuse. I feel bad that the family had to go through the process, but I've also reported times when it was abuse. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Families that have cps called and it turns out to be false should be able to pursue legal remedies against the person who called and lied. If it were me in that situation I wouldn’t rest until I got some sort of revenge against the person that called.

You can easily bring charges against a false reporter. If this happens to you, get an attorney for consult immediately. There are measures in place to protect parents nowadays. I think CPS became tired of problematic and/or vengeful neighbors' false reporting, etc.

Easily? Pray tell me, what is the process, and do you have even one example of this happening?

Anonymous wrote:CPS does not just take children because they wrote they were beat in a journal entry at school. If only. It takes a massive investigation to remove a child from their home. If parents have nothing to hide then what do they care if CPS comes to check on their household? Ps- CPS doesn't just show up either. It takes many calls about many incidents for CPS to maybe lightly look into the household.

Did you read the thread? How many PP would it take to give you a clue that your thoughts on this subject are wrong? CPS is one of those rare topics on DCUM with almost unanimous agreement. Is the most probable explanation in your view that most parents are child abusers?