Anonymous
11/11/2020 09:09
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t let me child play at a house where they smoked inside either.
Guns don't hang around in the air. Some of you have some strange analogies.
Anonymous
11/11/2020 09:08
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gun is my business. How is your auto safety? Car inspected lately? Brakes OK? That IS my business if my kid is going in a car with you. You the hosting parent should be offering me this info without me having to ask.
Cars are regulated. They require annual safety inspections. People can lose their license for being dangerous drivers. You have to pass a test and carry insurance.
If there was more oversight of who could own a gun and laws requiring proper storage and insurance, then I would have more confidence in gun owners. And if a parent wanted to ask about my driving record or safety features of my car I would be comfortable with that. I take being entrusted with the care of other people’s children seriously and do not mind answering questions.
The car analogy does not work.
There are no safety checks, at least not in Maryland and I have never heard of annual safety inspections in DC or VA. If someone is in an accident, they don't lose their license. How many DCUMers have been in accidents and not lost their licenses?
There absolutely is an annual safety inspection for cars in Virginia (you have to get one to get a sticker for your license plate). And you don’t lose your license because of an accident, but you can for reckless driving or DUI. And even if you can’t avoid all car accidents, as a parent, I would be happy to let another family know that yes, we use car seats at all times to at least try to prevent serious injury.
If you are confident in your responsible handing of firearms, then you should be happy to let another family know that you keep them locked away. No one needs to know where or the combo to the safe. But you should be able to have a conversation with other parents about this type of thing. One of my good friends’ husbands is in law enforcement and she has been upfront with me there is a gun in their home, but automatically put away and locked up when he gets home from work. I feel comfortable with my child having play dates over there because I trust their judgment
The problem with “trusting their judgement” is that it leaves your children dependent on third parties instead of preparing them for the risks they may face and need to respond to.
From the earliest possible age, children need to know:
1. All guns are real until a responsible adult has verified then and there that they are not real.
2. All guns are always loaded, all the time.
3. If you see a gun, STOP, DON’T TOUCH, LEAVE THE AREA, TELL AN ADULT.
There are more rules for families that decide to introduce their children to shooting sports, but these apply across the board.
Pp here with the friend with guns. YES TO ALL OF THIS. It cannot be stressed enough.
We teach them to cross the street safely. We teach them not to talk to strangers, not to touch medication, etc. All of that is for their safety. IMO so is basic gun safety.
Anonymous
11/11/2020 09:02
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:If securely locked, of course. Gee whiz, guns don't radiate cooties.
I wouldn't expect parents to disclose, any more than I would expect them to relay the full details of their burglar alarm system.
Agreed. It isn't a good idea to tell everyone you know (or even the parent's of all of your kid's friends) that you have guns in the house.
If I knew the person, and knew the guns were securely stored I would be ok. A good friend of ours had guns. He showed one -- unloaded of course- to our kids. He told them
"This will kill you. It will kill me. It will kill... " and then proceeded to point to and name every person in the room. He did not go into detail that there was more than one in the house.
Op, everyone who has a gun in there house isn't going to tell you. Even if you ask.
Anonymous
11/11/2020 08:40
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gun is my business. How is your auto safety? Car inspected lately? Brakes OK? That IS my business if my kid is going in a car with you. You the hosting parent should be offering me this info without me having to ask.
Cars are regulated. They require annual safety inspections. People can lose their license for being dangerous drivers. You have to pass a test and carry insurance.
If there was more oversight of who could own a gun and laws requiring proper storage and insurance, then I would have more confidence in gun owners. And if a parent wanted to ask about my driving record or safety features of my car I would be comfortable with that. I take being entrusted with the care of other people’s children seriously and do not mind answering questions.
The car analogy does not work.
There are no safety checks, at least not in Maryland and I have never heard of annual safety inspections in DC or VA. If someone is in an accident, they don't lose their license. How many DCUMers have been in accidents and not lost their licenses?
There absolutely is an annual safety inspection for cars in Virginia (you have to get one to get a sticker for your license plate). And you don’t lose your license because of an accident, but you can for reckless driving or DUI. And even if you can’t avoid all car accidents, as a parent, I would be happy to let another family know that yes, we use car seats at all times to at least try to prevent serious injury.
If you are confident in your responsible handing of firearms, then you should be happy to let another family know that you keep them locked away. No one needs to know where or the combo to the safe. But you should be able to have a conversation with other parents about this type of thing. One of my good friends’ husbands is in law enforcement and she has been upfront with me there is a gun in their home, but automatically put away and locked up when he gets home from work. I feel comfortable with my child having play dates over there because I trust their judgment
The problem with “trusting their judgement” is that it leaves your children dependent on third parties instead of preparing them for the risks they may face and need to respond to.
From the earliest possible age, children need to know:
1. All guns are real until a responsible adult has verified then and there that they are not real.
2. All guns are always loaded, all the time.
3. If you see a gun, STOP, DON’T TOUCH, LEAVE THE AREA, TELL AN ADULT.
There are more rules for families that decide to introduce their children to shooting sports, but these apply across the board.
Having these discussions is SO important, even if it's not a guarantee that your child will put these lessons into practice.
This past September, a family found a loaded gun at a PLAYGROUND in New Jersey.
In March, a loaded gun was found in a high school in Stafford.
Anonymous
11/11/2020 07:00
Subject: Friends with guns
I wouldn’t let me child play at a house where they smoked inside either.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 20:57
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gun is my business. How is your auto safety? Car inspected lately? Brakes OK? That IS my business if my kid is going in a car with you. You the hosting parent should be offering me this info without me having to ask.
Cars are regulated. They require annual safety inspections. People can lose their license for being dangerous drivers. You have to pass a test and carry insurance.
If there was more oversight of who could own a gun and laws requiring proper storage and insurance, then I would have more confidence in gun owners. And if a parent wanted to ask about my driving record or safety features of my car I would be comfortable with that. I take being entrusted with the care of other people’s children seriously and do not mind answering questions.
The car analogy does not work.
There are no safety checks, at least not in Maryland and I have never heard of annual safety inspections in DC or VA. If someone is in an accident, they don't lose their license. How many DCUMers have been in accidents and not lost their licenses?
There absolutely is an annual safety inspection for cars in Virginia (you have to get one to get a sticker for your license plate). And you don’t lose your license because of an accident, but you can for reckless driving or DUI. And even if you can’t avoid all car accidents, as a parent, I would be happy to let another family know that yes, we use car seats at all times to at least try to prevent serious injury.
If you are confident in your responsible handing of firearms, then you should be happy to let another family know that you keep them locked away. No one needs to know where or the combo to the safe. But you should be able to have a conversation with other parents about this type of thing. One of my good friends’ husbands is in law enforcement and she has been upfront with me there is a gun in their home, but automatically put away and locked up when he gets home from work. I feel comfortable with my child having play dates over there because I trust their judgment
The problem with “trusting their judgement” is that it leaves your children dependent on third parties instead of preparing them for the risks they may face and need to respond to.
From the earliest possible age, children need to know:
1. All guns are real until a responsible adult has verified then and there that they are not real.
2. All guns are always loaded, all the time.
3. If you see a gun, STOP, DON’T TOUCH, LEAVE THE AREA, TELL AN ADULT.
There are more rules for families that decide to introduce their children to shooting sports, but these apply across the board.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 20:37
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My gun is my business. How is your auto safety? Car inspected lately? Brakes OK? That IS my business if my kid is going in a car with you. You the hosting parent should be offering me this info without me having to ask.
Cars are regulated. They require annual safety inspections. People can lose their license for being dangerous drivers. You have to pass a test and carry insurance.
If there was more oversight of who could own a gun and laws requiring proper storage and insurance, then I would have more confidence in gun owners. And if a parent wanted to ask about my driving record or safety features of my car I would be comfortable with that. I take being entrusted with the care of other people’s children seriously and do not mind answering questions.
The car analogy does not work.
There are no safety checks, at least not in Maryland and I have never heard of annual safety inspections in DC or VA. If someone is in an accident, they don't lose their license. How many DCUMers have been in accidents and not lost their licenses?
There absolutely is an annual safety inspection for cars in Virginia (you have to get one to get a sticker for your license plate). And you don’t lose your license because of an accident, but you can for reckless driving or DUI. And even if you can’t avoid all car accidents, as a parent, I would be happy to let another family know that yes, we use car seats at all times to at least try to prevent serious injury.
If you are confident in your responsible handing of firearms, then you should be happy to let another family know that you keep them locked away. No one needs to know where or the combo to the safe. But you should be able to have a conversation with other parents about this type of thing. One of my good friends’ husbands is in law enforcement and she has been upfront with me there is a gun in their home, but automatically put away and locked up when he gets home from work. I feel comfortable with my child having play dates over there because I trust their judgment
Anonymous
11/10/2020 12:43
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of your friends have guns in their homes. If you ask them, they’re often not going to tell you the truth.
Why not?
Because they don't think it's any of your business.
Why not? This isn’t a complete answer.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 12:31
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of your friends have guns in their homes. If you ask them, they’re often not going to tell you the truth.
Why not?
Because they don't think it's any of your business.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 12:29
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So many snowflakes here. Asking very very personal questions trying to determine the politics of Johnny's friends.
We are Democrats and own 2 guns. Happy?
And you would be offended by people asking about your gun ownership and safety protocols before allowing their children to visit you?
No, but I wouldn't tell them either. (NP and also Democrat)
Anonymous
11/10/2020 12:28
Subject: Friends with guns
This is one reason (of many) that I don't allow sleepovers except at the home of families I already know really well.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 12:05
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Paranoid gun freaks definitely unite on this site.
Seriously. I mean the reasons they give are ridiculous. Comparing it to MVA. Being defensive about parents asking about guns in the house and countering if parents ask about safety driving or whatever crazy reason.
It’s quite revealing the insecurities and defensiveness of the gun people on here.
Thread wouldn’t be so long if the gun people would just answer truthfully when parents ask do you have a gun if they are letting their child play over there. What is the big deal?? None at all except the gun people are making it so.
You can't trust that another parent will tell you the truth.
Not understanding or accepting that person's reasoning doesn't change this basic fact.
Given this, how do you proceed?
I would suggest talking about gun safety with your children, and not just once.
Absolutely. And we can also not treat guns like the precious. It’s OK to disclose that you have a weapon in the home if someone asks. Our friendships should be based on truth. Let someone else decide if it’s OK or not. When we can’t be open and honest with others we are removing consent.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 11:48
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My primary care practitioners have had the standard "gun in the house" questions for 30 years on the standard paperwork. Also, "which medications are in in the medicine cabinet out of reach of children? " It's all standard.
Lol, I always answer No to that. Nunya business. I make my decisions about gun ownership in my own home.
I don't understand this. We have a gun in our house and I would NEVER tell people that we didn't. I'm not afraid to explain where it is, how it is stored, where the ammunition is, how it is stored, and what it's used for. Why does this bother you so much? I truly don't understand. Our gun is 100% legal, so why wouldn't I answer a question about it? If someone doesn't want to send their kid to our house because we have a gun, no matter how it is stored, then honestly, I'm not sure I'm interested in being friends with them anyway, so bullet dodged. (Pun intended).
Because PP's gun is not stored safely. Gun safety is for liberal snowflakes.
Anonymous
11/10/2020 11:45
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous
11/10/2020 11:43
Subject: Friends with guns
Anonymous wrote:So many snowflakes here. Asking very very personal questions trying to determine the politics of Johnny's friends.
We are Democrats and own 2 guns. Happy?
And you would be offended by people asking about your gun ownership and safety protocols before allowing their children to visit you?