Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 12:45     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:Western Maryland votes like West Virginia And the Eastern Shore like Alabama. Heck, even Harford and Cecil are Trump territory. It’s basically just the Baltimore-Washington area in the middle delivering the Democratic votes.

And? That scenario plays out in all 50 states.

TX - Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, El Paso - went blue
ID - Boise - went blue
AK - Anchorage - went blue
. ...
etc.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 12:36     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

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LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.


But President Trump wanted to cut payroll taxes too, and the Dems ridiculed that as well. You’re loosing this argument.


No he didn't. He wanted to defer payroll taxes with a vague promise to forgive the tax later. An actual payroll tax holiday plan as stimulus might have gotten support like it did in 2011, but it needed to be real, not a deferral.

I'm not having an argument about tax rates either, I'm pointing out the purpose of the "47% of people don't pay taxes" lie. Given that all you've got is new lies about payroll taxes, I'm not losing.


There was nothing “vague” about his commitment to forgive the payroll taxes. He couldn’t do it on his own though, and there was no way the Dems were going to give him that win, no matter how good it would be for those who need the relief the most.


"If you vote for me, I'll forgive them" without actually getting anyone to introduce legislation to make it happen is a vague promise because you're not doing anything to make it happen. Again, compare this to 2011, when an actual payroll tax holiday was worked on by both sides and passed into law. That was leadership to help people, this was not. Maybe if Trump had shown that kind of actual leadership, he'd have won. Sad!
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 10:48     Subject: Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Wait, did you seriously just claim that everyone pays taxes because of all the other payroll, property, sales, etc. taxes, and then claim in the next breath that Donald Trump doesn’t pay any taxes? Do you hear yourself?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 10:45     Subject: Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

False
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 09:52     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.


But President Trump wanted to cut payroll taxes too, and the Dems ridiculed that as well. You’re loosing this argument.


No he didn't. He wanted to defer payroll taxes with a vague promise to forgive the tax later. An actual payroll tax holiday plan as stimulus might have gotten support like it did in 2011, but it needed to be real, not a deferral.

I'm not having an argument about tax rates either, I'm pointing out the purpose of the "47% of people don't pay taxes" lie. Given that all you've got is new lies about payroll taxes, I'm not losing.


There was nothing “vague” about his commitment to forgive the payroll taxes. He couldn’t do it on his own though, and there was no way the Dems were going to give him that win, no matter how good it would be for those who need the relief the most.
Then I'm sure you are for raising the minimum wage right? By the way I make less than 50k a year and I pay plenty of taxes. When you say the rich pay the majority of taxes you leave out the part about all the loopholes rich people use to pay a much lesser percentage on their income than the middle class does. Why, our own president who is supposedly well off only paid $750 last year. Are you down with that?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 09:08     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.


But President Trump wanted to cut payroll taxes too, and the Dems ridiculed that as well. You’re loosing this argument.


No he didn't. He wanted to defer payroll taxes with a vague promise to forgive the tax later. An actual payroll tax holiday plan as stimulus might have gotten support like it did in 2011, but it needed to be real, not a deferral.

I'm not having an argument about tax rates either, I'm pointing out the purpose of the "47% of people don't pay taxes" lie. Given that all you've got is new lies about payroll taxes, I'm not losing.


There was nothing “vague” about his commitment to forgive the payroll taxes. He couldn’t do it on his own though, and there was no way the Dems were going to give him that win, no matter how good it would be for those who need the relief the most.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 08:52     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.


But President Trump wanted to cut payroll taxes too, and the Dems ridiculed that as well. You’re loosing this argument.


No he didn't. He wanted to defer payroll taxes with a vague promise to forgive the tax later. An actual payroll tax holiday plan as stimulus might have gotten support like it did in 2011, but it needed to be real, not a deferral.

I'm not having an argument about tax rates either, I'm pointing out the purpose of the "47% of people don't pay taxes" lie. Given that all you've got is new lies about payroll taxes, I'm not losing.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 08:51     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:Western Maryland votes like West Virginia And the Eastern Shore like Alabama. Heck, even Harford and Cecil are Trump territory. It’s basically just the Baltimore-Washington area in the middle delivering the Democratic votes.


But the beltway Libs think everyone is just like them!
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 08:47     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Western Maryland votes like West Virginia And the Eastern Shore like Alabama. Heck, even Harford and Cecil are Trump territory. It’s basically just the Baltimore-Washington area in the middle delivering the Democratic votes.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 08:39     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.


But President Trump wanted to cut payroll taxes too, and the Dems ridiculed that as well. You’re loosing this argument.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2020 07:53     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Income taxes aren't even the only taxes the federal government levies. Something like 3/4 of people pay payroll taxes, but we always hear only about income taxes because rich people want to whine about the progressive taxes that they pay and not the regressive taxes that hit normal people harder. It's propaganda.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2020 16:38     Subject: Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan 2024


No repuke will ever be elected president again, ever.


Think again babe
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2020 16:20     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.


Usually, when people say "taxes," what they mean is, "taxes." When they are only talking about federal income tax, they say, "federal income tax."
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2020 15:32     Subject: Re:Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

LOL someone needs to get woke!
47% of peoiple pay NO TAXES.


This would be true, if it were 2009, and the only taxes were federal income taxes.

However, not only is it 2020, but even in 2009, there were a lot of taxes that weren't federal income taxes. And there still are now.


Fair enough, but since the context is the presidential election, it’s safe to assume that we are talking about federal income tax, not sales tax or property taxes or other such things over which the federal government has no direct control. So yes, only the rich pay federal income tax.
Anonymous
Post 11/06/2020 15:31     Subject: Can I just say how much I love Maryland?

Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan 2024


No repuke will ever be elected president again, ever.