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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

Nice “hope” you have there for humanity - there are thousands of devastated parents today trying to carry on.

And as much as you want to believe it, I am far from alone.

Anonymous wrote:I've accepted that we're not going back this year and will deal with it. I can't accept that we will not be going back if a vaccine become available by next academic year (for teachers, not kids).

What if it is just 50% effective after two shots? That is the FDA threshold for approval? That means you have a 50% change of getting covid once you are vaccinated. At very best we might be looking at 70% effective rate.

What then?

Anonymous wrote:I've accepted that we're not going back this year and will deal with it. I can't accept that we will not be going back if a vaccine become available by next academic year (for teachers, not kids).

I won't be taking any vaccine until there's one available for children. DL Spring 2022!

I've accepted that we're not going back this year and will deal with it. I can't accept that we will not be going back if a vaccine become available by next academic year (for teachers, not kids).

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

I'm actually grateful to OP--the frequency with which she's been posting and reposting the same stuff in this thread all morning has helped me see that the I-hate-teachers posts in the other threads really could be the work of just a handful of very agitated, very repetitive people making themselves sound bigger than they are.

That gives me hope for humanity on a tough day. So, thanks OP!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

Of course I know about the racial divide. But it’s ironic that that article claims white parents are ignoring “the science” when the current science strongly supports reopening. It’s an issue of communicating to those communities that they should not be overly fearful. That’s exactly why the WTU’s fear-based tactics are so incredibly toxic. Beyond that, nobody is going to force families into the classroom that don’t want to go.

Of course they aren't. But that's not the point. If it becomes clear that white families will return their kids to the classrooms but Black and Hispanic families will not because they don't feel safe, there will be no in person school. Opening will create equity issues, and schools will remain in DL, not just in DC, but throughout the DMV.

so everyone will get demonstrably worse educations for “equity” including minority kids? makes zero sense. if in school is so much better (implied by your equity argument) then schools should open for everyone, no DL. You can’t simultaneously argue DL is inferior and creates equity issues compared to in person, and then refuse to open the schools.

I'm not making the argument, but I am speculating that the argument will be made. It is the same reason that hardly any instruction was offered in the spring. The thinking, which I personally do not agree with, is that if what is being offered cannot be accessed in an equitable way, then it is better to offer less. Of course, as you suggest, another way to address the problem from an equity perspective would be to reopen schools without offering a DL option. I don't see that happening, but it a potential solution.

Yes, this argument will be made and is being made. Not offering a DL option is even less equitable because many students actually cannot attend in person, due to high risk households or their own medical needs.

I was wondering if anyone would point out the bias in the article around certain scientific views. There is NOT consensus on what's safe, clearly, see quoted health professionals in the article. It's also a good point that minority communities have been hit hardest and also have poor healthcare, so good reason to fear this disease.

To make the argument for reopening, you would need to win on the level of making those minority families, or enough of them, feel safe enough to send kids back in enough numbers. I don't see that happening. I do think it's a little crazy to, as you said, offer less because of equity - lower all boats so to speak. That's really the DC way though. Then everyone simply pours their private money into their own personal family solutions (or used to be, into the PTO).

This is sort of like the tiresome and neverending argument around gifted education.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

Of course I know about the racial divide. But it’s ironic that that article claims white parents are ignoring “the science” when the current science strongly supports reopening. It’s an issue of communicating to those communities that they should not be overly fearful. That’s exactly why the WTU’s fear-based tactics are so incredibly toxic. Beyond that, nobody is going to force families into the classroom that don’t want to go.

Of course they aren't. But that's not the point. If it becomes clear that white families will return their kids to the classrooms but Black and Hispanic families will not because they don't feel safe, there will be no in person school. Opening will create equity issues, and schools will remain in DL, not just in DC, but throughout the DMV.

so everyone will get demonstrably worse educations for “equity” including minority kids? makes zero sense. if in school is so much better (implied by your equity argument) then schools should open for everyone, no DL. You can’t simultaneously argue DL is inferior and creates equity issues compared to in person, and then refuse to open the schools.

I'm not making the argument, but I am speculating that the argument will be made. It is the same reason that hardly any instruction was offered in the spring. The thinking, which I personally do not agree with, is that if what is being offered cannot be accessed in an equitable way, then it is better to offer less. Of course, as you suggest, another way to address the problem from an equity perspective would be to reopen schools without offering a DL option. I don't see that happening, but it a potential solution.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

there was A PLAN. the union tanked it with a purposefully unreasonable demand (to allow teachers to opt out at will). saying “DCPS needs to come up with a better plan” doesn’t answer the question: how long are you prepared to accept DL?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

Why did you start this thread to get answers to your question if you won't even read them honestly? Seems to me most people think DCPS just needs to come up with a solid, thorough plan and we'd support it. There so far has been NO PLAN. How does that make us ready to go back? How can you feel safe sending your child into an environment where the teachers don't even feel safe?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

Of course I know about the racial divide. But it’s ironic that that article claims white parents are ignoring “the science” when the current science strongly supports reopening. It’s an issue of communicating to those communities that they should not be overly fearful. That’s exactly why the WTU’s fear-based tactics are so incredibly toxic. Beyond that, nobody is going to force families into the classroom that don’t want to go.

Of course they aren't. But that's not the point. If it becomes clear that white families will return their kids to the classrooms but Black and Hispanic families will not because they don't feel safe, there will be no in person school. Opening will create equity issues, and schools will remain in DL, not just in DC, but throughout the DMV.

so everyone will get demonstrably worse educations for “equity” including minority kids? makes zero sense. if in school is so much better (implied by your equity argument) then schools should open for everyone, no DL. You can’t simultaneously argue DL is inferior and creates equity issues compared to in person, and then refuse to open the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure if I create a new thread for this it will be deleted because, gasp, it's about another state and so irrelevant here (ok Jeff...) but you all need to read this: https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-illinois-schools-opening-pressure-20201031-cwivxnk72bfr7f77jtxwop75ne-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_content=861604189979&fbclid=IwAR2aDhVi2SnK6LkJZiIq6ZQfZEBfNvvucOBDVeqGFeLsxbT38Nz1_MvxPzk

I'm pro-reopening, but I'm also white and middle class. This article shows why this won't happen. Once it becomes a race issue, and it's wealthier whites that want it, in DC, it's doomed.

I actually think it will push many of those families into private schools, including ours, or to the suburbs. This is the issue.

Of course I know about the racial divide. But it’s ironic that that article claims white parents are ignoring “the science” when the current science strongly supports reopening. It’s an issue of communicating to those communities that they should not be overly fearful. That’s exactly why the WTU’s fear-based tactics are so incredibly toxic. Beyond that, nobody is going to force families into the classroom that don’t want to go.

Of course they aren't. But that's not the point. If it becomes clear that white families will return their kids to the classrooms but Black and Hispanic families will not because they don't feel safe, there will be no in person school. Opening will create equity issues, and schools will remain in DL, not just in DC, but throughout the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

LOL, so you started it so you could shame us all with your bold questioning? Like no one here noticed that this is a long-term problem until you came along to tell us? The responses all seem pretty thoughtful and measured and you come off as a little obsessed.

I haven’t seen any thoughtful answers. Care to give one?

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Anonymous wrote:I support the teachers AND I want in-person school. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I think if DCPS actually worked with the teachers (and parents) to develop a plan with actual buy-in, instead of hatching these plans at Central and then announcing them on the news and expecting everyone to hop on board without asking any questions, we could already be back in-person with some form of hybrid.

There are teachers who want to come back. There are also teachers who don't. There are logistical problems around staffing and how to create a concurrent model. The only way to solve those problems (and they are solvable) is to be working together with teachers to figure it out.

Exactly. I just practice simple empathy. If I wouldn't want to go back under the conditions, then I don't expect other people to. DCPS is doing a horrible job. I think a lot of the vitriol toward teachers should be going to the president and mayor. Stop bungling everything and give us some confidence that you aren't as dim witted as you seem and you actually thought even the simplest things through. If we are still in this position next August, I'll use my privilege and try to move out of the country. Then there would be a huge signal that there is something wrong with America (I mean, stating the obvious, but still...) that they aren't prioritizing putting kids in school.

I have zero empathy for teachers, parents, the WTU, and their crony elected officials, who all ganged up on the most vulnerable kids to keep them out of school. Zero.

Thanks, PP, but I think we can see that already. Curious as to why you keep bombing this thread that's addressed to the parents who're supporting teachers instead of sticking to the dozen or so I-hate-teachers threads that already exist. Do you think you have some new information for us?

I actually started this thread. I’m still here to see if any of you supposedly empathetic teacher supporters actually has any limits to how long you will support the closure. So far we seem to have two groups: one group that vageuly and naively believes we will return in term 3, and another group that wants to stay home indefinitely.

LOL, so you started it so you could shame us all with your bold questioning? Like no one here noticed that this is a long-term problem until you came along to tell us? The responses all seem pretty thoughtful and measured and you come off as a little obsessed.