Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 15:49     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Parents chase the good young referees away. Clubs need to support Referees who kick out abusive parents.


Its a tradition as old as time. just as visiting teams get heckled and booed at away games. Referees get it every game. There is no home court advantage ever for referees. Just as players should learn to take and leave on the field so should referees. Never should a player / coach or a parent / fan ever take it to physical everl or verbal beyond the field of play barrage. But the boos are the ying to the cheers yang. Just as we yell great job Johnny or good call ref. We should accept the Number 12 sucks get him off the field and you blow ref. I mean we have gotten to be a treat them with kid gloves society. As long as it doesn't become physical and no threats are made let game go on. Players play, referees ref, and fans be fanatical.


This is a pile of hog manure. The pool of potential refs really starts at 13/14 years old. If you expect your 13 yr old to take verbal assaults from adults and enjoy it, you have a twisted sense of the world. We raise our children to listen to and respect adults; the cognitive dissonance of having some oafish Dad who doesn't even know the Laws of the Game incorrectly shouting instruction is simply beyond.

You, sir, are the very reason that we only have older men reffing. Older men can "take it" and move past. I don't want a 13 year old to have to endure the howlings of a sideline buffoon.


We condition the athletes to take it from the visiting crowd. Why not the referees? We want to give them the power to keep the game under control. Why not take the boos too. Not everyone can referee just like not everyone can play. Life isn't all about hugs and handshakes. We compete in contest for victories and it means something to the winner. Just as losing is a lesson learned. Both players and fans are invested in the game. Maybe not a rec. level but any age competitive level mean something stop treating competitive situations like delicate flowers.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 15:26     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Parents chase the good young referees away. Clubs need to support Referees who kick out abusive parents.


Its a tradition as old as time. just as visiting teams get heckled and booed at away games. Referees get it every game. There is no home court advantage ever for referees. Just as players should learn to take and leave on the field so should referees. Never should a player / coach or a parent / fan ever take it to physical everl or verbal beyond the field of play barrage. But the boos are the ying to the cheers yang. Just as we yell great job Johnny or good call ref. We should accept the Number 12 sucks get him off the field and you blow ref. I mean we have gotten to be a treat them with kid gloves society. As long as it doesn't become physical and no threats are made let game go on. Players play, referees ref, and fans be fanatical.


This is a pile of hog manure. The pool of potential refs really starts at 13/14 years old. If you expect your 13 yr old to take verbal assaults from adults and enjoy it, you have a twisted sense of the world. We raise our children to listen to and respect adults; the cognitive dissonance of having some oafish Dad who doesn't even know the Laws of the Game incorrectly shouting instruction is simply beyond.

You, sir, are the very reason that we only have older men reffing. Older men can "take it" and move past. I don't want a 13 year old to have to endure the howlings of a sideline buffoon.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 15:17     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Parents chase the good young referees away. Clubs need to support Referees who kick out abusive parents.


Its a tradition as old as time. just as visiting teams get heckled and booed at away games. Referees get it every game. There is no home court advantage ever for referees. Just as players should learn to take and leave on the field so should referees. Never should a player / coach or a parent / fan ever take it to physical everl or verbal beyond the field of play barrage. But the boos are the ying to the cheers yang. Just as we yell great job Johnny or good call ref. We should accept the Number 12 sucks get him off the field and you blow ref. I mean we have gotten to be a treat them with kid gloves society. As long as it doesn't become physical and no threats are made let game go on. Players play, referees ref, and fans be fanatical.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 14:48     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Parents chase the good young referees away. Clubs need to support Referees who kick out abusive parents.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 14:46     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:2 refs for a u16 game, where do the refs position themselves and how do they determine the offensive responsibilities?

We had a game one ref was on field with usual responsibilities the other ref stayed on one side monitoring off sides and out of bounds etc but at half switched to the other end so the same team had a ref monitoring off sides while no one was monitoring the other team. Shouldn't the ref on the same side so they would monitor the other team? or should both refs been on the field but close enough to the sidelines to be able to make most of the calls?

It didn't impact the outcome of the game but certainty the number of off sides calls.


Assistant Referee should have stayed on the same half for exactly the reasons you stated. If the game was 5-0 + I might assign the Assistant Ref to move with monitoring the winning team, as all the action would be down on that side anyway. But Fairness is to stay put. Center needs to cheat, as he is calling offisde for the missing AR.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 08:19     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:Dangerous plays??? Can someone explain what goes into the decision on a dangerous play? A kid falls down near the ball. The kid on the ground is playing it or trying to play it. Is the kid on the ground always guilty of dangerous play?


No, only if there are other players near him/her also vying for the ball and he/she is relatively in a dangerous position. The second part of this is key, else a slide tackle would be considered dangerous play all the time.
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 08:09     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do some referees not play any stoppage time at all? There is no way in a match that there should ever be less than 1 min added


Usually leagues/tournaments don’t like there to be stoppage time so they can churn out more games. The schedules are packed so that there’s usually a team waiting to kick off as soon as the game before theirs finishes. I think it’s ridiculous, but that’s just my opinion.


Yeh. Crazy because it is a part of the game they have to get right
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 06:27     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Dangerous plays??? Can someone explain what goes into the decision on a dangerous play? A kid falls down near the ball. The kid on the ground is playing it or trying to play it. Is the kid on the ground always guilty of dangerous play?
Anonymous
Post 11/01/2020 01:03     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
RantingSoccerDad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Don't worry. Covid will fix this.


Ha -- I already had it and lived, so you're stuck with me.



Probably a false positive. There's still a chance you'll go down.


Yes, PP! This is the way to imbue your kid with the talent he’s lacking.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 23:16     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:Why do some referees not play any stoppage time at all? There is no way in a match that there should ever be less than 1 min added


Usually leagues/tournaments don’t like there to be stoppage time so they can churn out more games. The schedules are packed so that there’s usually a team waiting to kick off as soon as the game before theirs finishes. I think it’s ridiculous, but that’s just my opinion.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 23:01     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
RantingSoccerDad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Today during a U12 game, the ball hit a players hand. Ref said it was accidental so not hand ball.
Last week, exact same thing happened to my son - but he was called on it.
So... which is it?


You don't say which league your son plays in but NCSL made some changes to the laws of the game for 2019-2020 that impact handballs. I assume this only applies to NCSL but I'm not a ref so I can't say for sure.

<SNIP>


NCSL isn't *changing* the Laws here. Just trying to clarify.

And it's not a bad clarification.


Poor choice of words on my part. Thanks for the clarification. See, I told you was I wasn't a ref!


And apparently I can't even construct proper English anymore, either! Doh!
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 23:00     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

RantingSoccerDad wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Today during a U12 game, the ball hit a players hand. Ref said it was accidental so not hand ball.
Last week, exact same thing happened to my son - but he was called on it.
So... which is it?


You don't say which league your son plays in but NCSL made some changes to the laws of the game for 2019-2020 that impact handballs. I assume this only applies to NCSL but I'm not a ref so I can't say for sure.

<SNIP>


NCSL isn't *changing* the Laws here. Just trying to clarify.

And it's not a bad clarification.


Poor choice of words on my part. Thanks for the clarification. See, I told you was I wasn't a ref!
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 22:54     Subject: Referees: Ask Us Anything

Why do some referees not play any stoppage time at all? There is no way in a match that there should ever be less than 1 min added
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 22:02     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Don't worry. Covid will fix this.


You are both horrible.


Agree


Oh get a sense of humor - both of you.


Lol
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2020 21:56     Subject: Re:Referees: Ask Us Anything

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many refs seem to be overweight elderly men. Why is this?


Don't worry. Covid will fix this.


You are both horrible.


Agree


Oh get a sense of humor - both of you.