Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

THis article would suggest that the little girl voice is part of the same camouflage, "It's just little old me!"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/speak-easy/201708/why-some-grown-women-sound-girls

To the folks here insisting that she’s blond: are you POC by any chance? I have a brunette friend whose hair is light brown who was called blond a lot when she lived in India. Maybe it’s a thing similar to how many white people have trouble judging Asian and Black women's ages.

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Agree and I know this may get me roasted but the childlike voice was to me, both surprising and off putting at this level of professional achievement. Her manner of speaking did not appear truly engaging or reflecting any wit, or interest for the listener. Or at least this listener. My tolerance for listening to anyone in that party for longer than 10 seconds has dropped significantly over the past months. It's deadening

No, I agree with you, I’m surprised she hasn’t worked with a voice coach to pitch her voice down a bit. It’s a sad fact thanks to centuries of equating authority with maleness that people tend to accord more respect to women whose voices are lower or less markedly “girlish.”

I suspect Hillary Clinton did this — if you listen to early interviews with her, when she was only being interviewed because she was the wifey, her voice had a higher pitch; she deliberately lowered her “speech giving” and “public” voice to a lower and richer pitch as she became a political figure in her own right.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

Nah, I think her voice is just her voice. I also have a high squeaky voice and I can’t help it much but you sure as hell won’t find me testifying in front of Congress in those schoolmarm dresses.

kirsten gillibrand's voice is similar. i remember being surprised by it during the primary debates.

Gillibrand has actually worked on this because it was even squeakier years ago when she was in the House.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah she doesn't have brown hair. Maybe it looks darker underneath without lighting, but overall it's a darker reddish blonde. Not very brown, and not remotely a brunette

My hair is the same color as hers and it’s brown. It’s brown, people.

Same. She's got brown hair with highlights. And a couple of touches of gray which may be intentional to make her look more mature. I think she could use a better colorist and some conditioner or glaze.

PP here and yes! I want to offer her a hot oil treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah she doesn't have brown hair. Maybe it looks darker underneath without lighting, but overall it's a darker reddish blonde. Not very brown, and not remotely a brunette

My hair is the same color as hers and it’s brown. It’s brown, people.

Same. She's got brown hair with highlights. And a couple of touches of gray which may be intentional to make her look more mature. I think she could use a better colorist and some conditioner or glaze.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

Nah, I think her voice is just her voice. I also have a high squeaky voice and I can’t help it much but you sure as hell won’t find me testifying in front of Congress in those schoolmarm dresses.

kirsten gillibrand's voice is similar. i remember being surprised by it during the primary debates.

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Anonymous wrote:My hair is also the same color, and I have always said it was brown. I think people would think I was crazy if I said it was blonde! I describe it as light brown. My ethnic background is Irish/Italian. I also have about the same skin color as ACM (brown eyes, though), and I agree that navy is a very flattering color. Charcoal also works well, but black washes me out. I usually do a navy suit with a jewel tone shirt.

I think the second day of a reddish dress is really odd.

I'm also Irish/Italian and have the same hair & skin color. I also call my hair brown. It can appear lighter and/or redder depending on the lighting.

Navy looks best.

Ditto.
She has the coloring of probably half the girls/women on the Notre Dame campus.
I have the same coloring and when I was a kid people called my hair dirty blond or ash blond. As I've gotten older, it's darkened and now is the same color as ACBs. My DL says brown. When coloring my hair, I waiver between "dark golden blond" and "light golden brown"

Once I went to a hair dresser and told her that I wanted red highlights. She wouldn't do it because "you'll look like a lobster"

She was right. It's also why I don't have a lot of red dresses in my wardrobe.

While I admit that I love those earrings, I wouldn’t let them get two miles from testimony in a Senate hearing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

Nah, I think her voice is just her voice. I also have a high squeaky voice and I can’t help it much but you sure as hell won’t find me testifying in front of Congress in those schoolmarm dresses.

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Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

Yes. It's also part of her training in how to defer to The Men in Church as God Intended.

Well, a woman certainly wouldn’t want to be loud or strident. Even on the Supreme Court, it’s important to be ladylike and feminine. /s

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Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

Yes. It's also part of her training in how to defer to The Men in Church as God Intended.

She looks very nice. No criticism at all on appearance.

Sadly, the inside does not match the outside.

Anonymous wrote:I think her dresses are ugly. I think her appearance sends a clear message of “I’m not a threatening uppity professional woman. I’m the good kind that’s a mom.”

Do you think her voice is part of this same persona?

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Anonymous wrote:She has birthed five babies and looks great! I love her dress. She seems like a genuinely nice person and I would totally grab a coffee with her.

Her dress is not that bad, but I would run for the hills if I ever met her. Her glossy-eyed Evangelical eyes give me the heebie jeebies.

Same. Something creeps me out about her. Major cult-ish vibe.

It's the crazy eyes plus lack of affect.

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Agree and I know this may get me roasted but the childlike voice was to me, both surprising and off putting at this level of professional achievement. Her manner of speaking did not appear truly engaging or reflecting any wit, or interest for the listener. Or at least this listener. My tolerance for listening to anyone in that party for longer than 10 seconds has dropped significantly over the past months. It's deadening

NP, and I agree. I'm currently on a call with a high level female colleague, and my 8 year old DD has a lower voice. It's jarring, especially when paired with so little enthusiasm.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her, I would not wear anything in a color that makes people think of the Handmaid's Tale.

I think the dress is lovely. It is a color I love to wear. But I think it is not a politically astute move.

This! Duh... what’s wrong with a nice navy or taupe or charcoal.

I have the same coloring as ACB— pale skin, brown hair, blue eyes— and all of these colors wash me out and make me look like I am at death’s door. People with our complexion need color near our faces to bring it out of our oatmeal-colored skin.

She doesn't have brown hair.

What color would you say her hair is?

Crispy.