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Anonymous wrote:This thread ain’t about property crime and simple assaults it’s about SHOOTINGS.
Who’s responsible for all these damn guns out here?

I used to be very strongly against firearms, but the older I get, the more I see the real issue. Legal guns aren't the big problem. The vast majority of crimes aren't committed with legal firearms. Illegal guns are the big problem. Unfortunately most cities don't lock people up for long when they're caught with an illegal gun, and the recent "bail reform" is making things even worse. We need to get people off the street who are using (and demanding) illegal guns. The only way to do that is to lock them up for a long time.

I honestly think that if democrats supported enforcing the gun laws that we already have, we would be able to get the republican support to overturn the second amendment IF guns were still a big problem. But it won't happen until we start enforcing the laws we already have.

Ban all the guns, every last one of them, and this stuff won’t happen. If guns are banned, people won’t have them.

What does "ban" mean to you? Like are you planning on actually having any punishments when people ignore you? If so, what are they and why aren't you enforcing them now for people who are carrying non-registered/illegal guns? And if you just plan on arresting people and then releasing them the next day, what good do you think that will do?

It’s actually very simple. All we need is a bounty offered to the public to turn in others - people they know who are possessing guns after they are outlawed - and this ceases to be a problem.

If people could get a $5,000 reward for the arrest of someone who had a gun, they’d be falling all over themselves to report them. That’s how you fix this. Ban them all, then offer huge financial incentives to turn in noncompliant people.

The people that arrested get an automatic life sentence in prison or some kind of institutional colony, permanently removing them from society. Pick a undesirable location, somewhere out west maybe where nobody lives, and create a penal colony. Stick them all there. Let them toil doing menial physical labor or whatever, and if they try to escape, execute them. Such penal colonies have been used previously for hundreds of years as a means for countries to dispose of their undesirables who are a threat a civilized society. Read some some history.

All it takes is the national will to do it. Hopefully we’re headed that way.

You clearly didn't watch the video posted above. THE POLICE ARE ALREADY ARRESTING TONS OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH ILLEGAL GUNS. And the cops know from statistics that the illegal guns are the ones used in murders. The problem is that once the police arrest people, it's up to the DAs and basically the politicians to decide what to do with the people. And what's happening now is that they're just being released.

The cop in the video explained that in places where they actually enforce punishments for carrying illegal weapons, the murder rates do down dramatically. And he explained that gun crime rates are going up dramatically with bail reform (i.e. catch and release justice system that has started to roll out around the country). But the cops have no power once the people are arrested - you need to vote for people who actually want to lock people up for a long time.

I'm not sure whether we need stricter gun laws in this country. Possibly yes, and possibly no. But what's VERY clear is that we need to enforce the laws that we already have.

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