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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.

I knew a kid in HS who did things so she can say she did. Very robotic. She did graduate from a HYP and went on to a med school. To my surprise, she dropped out of med school and now in her late middle age has or had a run-of-the-mill small business. I was shocked. Ambition without heart can only get you so far.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.

I knew a kid in HS who did things so she can say she did. Very robotic. She did graduate from a HYP and went on to a med school. To my surprise, she dropped out of med school and now in her late middle age has or had a run-of-the-mill small business. I was shocked. Ambition without heart can only get you so far.

Maybe she's happy with her choices? Perhaps she had a family to care for? A lot of people who go to HYP stop working anyway or mommy track when they have kids.

True. Maybe she learned a little too late after all the tuition that ivies aren’t all that. Her business is blue collar work that doesn’t or didn’t involve ivy education.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.

I knew a kid in HS who did things so she can say she did. Very robotic. She did graduate from a HYP and went on to a med school. To my surprise, she dropped out of med school and now in her late middle age has or had a run-of-the-mill small business. I was shocked. Ambition without heart can only get you so far.

Maybe she's happy with her choices? Perhaps she had a family to care for? A lot of people who go to HYP stop working anyway or mommy track when they have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:What are chances of transfer to HYP (kid really interested in Y or P after visits to high school so likely won't apply to H). At a top top SLAC now for first year (well at meaning at home). Any better coming from a top SLAC? I know usually it is 1%. But thinking with Class of 2024 deferrals, they will need more 2024s.

I think kid should focus on staying put and doing well. If you are top 1 percent at a top SLAC, there's no point in transferring. Heck, if medical/law/grad school are the end goal, it's probably better to be at a top SLAC and top 1% than to transfer, adjust, and most likely lose that top 1% standing at HYP.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.

I knew a kid in HS who did things so she can say she did. Very robotic. She did graduate from a HYP and went on to a med school. To my surprise, she dropped out of med school and now in her late middle age has or had a run-of-the-mill small business. I was shocked. Ambition without heart can only get you so far.

Anonymous wrote:What are chances of transfer to HYP (kid really interested in Y or P after visits to high school so likely won't apply to H). At a top top SLAC now for first year (well at meaning at home). Any better coming from a top SLAC? I know usually it is 1%. But thinking with Class of 2024 deferrals, they will need more 2024s.

Anonymous wrote:What are chances of transfer to HYP (kid really interested in Y or P after visits to high school so likely won't apply to H). At a top top SLAC now for first year (well at meaning at home). Any better coming from a top SLAC? I know usually it is 1%. But thinking with Class of 2024 deferrals, they will need more 2024s.

Anonymous wrote:Coming from a Big 3 with that GPA, your D has a ~5-10% shot at HYP. If I were you, I would encourage her to revisit other schools in the top 10. Chances are great that she will get into 1-2 in that tier.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

It's annoying how they start new non-profits rather than get credit for working for existing ones. I find it ridiculous for high school kids to be CEOs of these new non-profits, when they have enough on their plates to get through their classes.

They can get credit for working for existing ones. Mine showed a four year commitment to an established non- profit, among other accomplishments and was accepted.

That's the way it should be, and congrats to your kid. I think this "create a non-profit" thing came after the pay thousands to "volunteer in a developing country" trend. Hopefully the non-profit CEO thing disappears soon too.

I agree. What I think happened sometime in the last 5 or 6 years is it filtered down to ambitious kids coming up through high school as the thing you had to do. I clearly remember my dd informing me that "I have to start a non-profit to get into a good school" when she was all of 14 and I suggested she take a deep breath, step back, and figure out what was really important to her and do those things instead. She and another kid from her class are both at Y; they are quite different but they are both smart, creative kids who followed their own path throughout high school and did some really cool things with their time and energy. And neither started a non-profit.

Anonymous wrote:Erika Harold went to Harvard Law after winning Miss America. (She was super conservative/republican.)

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Anonymous wrote:Mine got into P. as a rowing recruit from another elite private here. The only other kid who was accepted to P. her yearwas a kid who was Class Pres. for 6 years. That kid went elsewhere. I think your D.D. Has a shot. She needs to write exceptional essays + have exceptional references. It would help if she could get an award + do something cool like start online music classes for poor kids + start an instrument donation campaign. Good luck to her!

Isn't it way too late for a senior to start something and be taken seriously before college application season?

In the age of Covid, rules are different. The essay could describe the urgent nature of poor people in particular needing music + have applicant raise emergency instrument donations. I have helped a lot of kids get into top schools by designing unique applications that the together + Build on their particular interests. It is like " name that tune" for me. Each application is packaged uniquely not falsely like those crazy rich parents.

You do this for free? Or do you charge those crazy rich parents for the packaging?