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Anonymous wrote:One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

Don you have family that has Covid-19? I do. It’s a beast. They barely want to be alive right now, on week 7, a “mild” case. They have likely permanently lost some lung function at this point. Your need to make this a fight, using gaslighting language to belittle others is deplorably cruel.

I've had 2 aunts (one with autoimmunity), one uncle, 3 cousin, and a sister all test positive across three cities and 2 countries. The only one that had a truly rough go of it was my aunt with an autoimmune disease and even she was never hospitalized and recovered within a few weeks. Please stop sensationalizing this diseases. I'm sorry your family member had such a rough go but the vast majority of people that get it will be fine....unless you have diabetes and then you're totally screwed.

Same here. My family member and his partner in their 70s had mild symptoms, but both were better after a month. I do have a distant relative in another country who died from it, but she was both older and high risk (cancer survivor).

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Anonymous wrote:There are two types of people:

1 - "I don't have to wear a mask any time I'm not at home because it's probably not going to protect me anyway"

2 - "We don't know everything about this virus, but we do know that masks prevent community spread, so I'll wear this mask when I'm not at home to protect myself and others"

It's not hard to care about other people.

And there it is. It really is that simple.

Only people who struggle with control issues categorize it as "that simple" to try and explain/order what they feel is an out of control situation. Nothing is that simple, especially not covid.

Lol. Do you have ODD?

No, but the "mask as soon as you leave home" most likely do.

We live in an apartment. It’s required by our building. How’s that cul-de-sac life?

Huh? So do I. Remove it when you exit the building, just like any other indoor, non-home space. Voila.

The hardcore defiance of the mayor’s order is a bit pathological.

DP. Guess you haven’t actually read the Mayor’s order.

Psyllium. Find some.

Huh? The order does not require blanket wearing of a mask outdoors. Perhaps take a look at the actual order.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

Don you have family that has Covid-19? I do. It’s a beast. They barely want to be alive right now, on week 7, a “mild” case. They have likely permanently lost some lung function at this point. Your need to make this a fight, using gaslighting language to belittle others is deplorably cruel.

I've had 2 aunts (one with autoimmunity), one uncle, 3 cousin, and a sister all test positive across three cities and 2 countries. The only one that had a truly rough go of it was my aunt with an autoimmune disease and even she was never hospitalized and recovered within a few weeks. Please stop sensationalizing this diseases. I'm sorry your family member had such a rough go but the vast majority of people that get it will be fine....unless you have diabetes and then you're totally screwed.

Anonymous wrote:One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

OK, not even sure where to start but...
- 4 million + cases and nearly 150,000 deaths is "fear porn"? That's so insulting to people whose loved ones have died.
- Not even sure what "was SARS as bad as COVID, no?" means from a grammatical standpoint, but SARS have 8 confirmed U.S. infections, and only about 8,000 people worldwide got sick. Not sure why you're making a comparison.
- 99.9% having mild cases is inaccurate. It's about 8 in 10 people that have mild symptoms. Surely this is reassuring for most healthy people, and we can all be thankful that this is not a deadlier virus. I'm assuming you consider yourself a low-risk, healthy person given your nonchalance. But many people are not low-risk or have loved ones who are not low-risk, and are very scared of severe consequences from the virus.

The debate on this forum is about mask wearing, not shut downs. But I have good news (you'll LOVE this since you want things to open back up!) - mask compliance can help us avoid further shutdowns: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/23/894425483/can-masks-save-us-from-more-lockdowns-heres-what-the-science-says

Happy mask-wearing!

Well, I live in the city and there's plenty of room in my neighborhood of single family homes for people to give each other wide berths when they are walking outside, which they do. I was out this morning and only about 10-20% had masks on, which was perfectly fine with me as I didn't get within 15 feet of anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:To the person/people on here asking for confirmation of any cases from brief sidewalk contact - why? Are you epidemiologists? Have you just ignored the hundreds of scientists who have explained countless times in the media why we should all be wearing masks whenever we leave home? Is wearing a mask that difficult? I get that kids don’t like them but none of us have ever done this before. The kids (and adults) are going to have to figure out how to make some changes. Almost every news outlet has stories with actual epidemiologists PLEADING with people to understand why we need mask compliance. Why aren’t you listening? I honestly do not get it.

I don't get why you insist on passing someone on the sidewalk close up in a pandemic? Can you explain that?

If we were in a park or trail where it's not always possible to be 6 feet away we wear masks. But the only place we are going these days with sidewalks is our neighborhood. We are five months into this and I go on walks a few times a day in my hood. Never, not once, have I been forced to be less than 6 feet away from someone. If I/we see someone coming, I simply move out into the street or cross the street. It's not that hard!

You apparently live in bumf*ck, nowhere, sweetie, but this is DC Urban Moms, and most of us live in the city, here you can’t avoid people when you set foot outside your house. So if you ever come to the big city, mask up, darling, or you’ll get called out, and not politely.

No, "most of us" don't live in the city, and DC isn't a big city anyway. Darling? Are you able to have a civilized argument without condescension? Or are you under the impression is makes you more convincing? It doesn't.

Anonymous wrote:I hate wearing masks outside and it’s likely not helpful, but (1) 97% of cases in DC can’t be traced, so they could be from outdoor transitory transmission, we have no idea; and (2) it’s now the law in DC for the 2+ set.

It's misleading to say 97% of cases can't be traced so therefore we don't know how the virus is transmitted. We do. Tons of data point to being inside, and being in crowds. Being outside, socially distanced, is not a big cause of transmission and is considered to be low risk.

Anonymous wrote:One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

If it's not a big deal to you should sign up to be part of the vaccine program.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/phase-3-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/07/27/how-to-volunteer-nih-covid-vaccine-clinical-trial/

I hate wearing masks outside and it’s likely not helpful, but (1) 97% of cases in DC can’t be traced, so they could be from outdoor transitory transmission, we have no idea; and (2) it’s now the law in DC for the 2+ set.

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Anonymous wrote:There are two types of people:

1 - "I don't have to wear a mask any time I'm not at home because it's probably not going to protect me anyway"

2 - "We don't know everything about this virus, but we do know that masks prevent community spread, so I'll wear this mask when I'm not at home to protect myself and others"

It's not hard to care about other people.

There you have it, people who only see it as black/white, do or don't do. Don't touch anything, sanitize everything, don't do anything, don't go anywhere, mask always even in your car. Or go out, hug everyone, party everywhere, never wear a mask, and lick doorknobs.

There's a lot of healthy, reasonable, rational, middle ground.

It's just about caring about other people. Wearing a mask is about protecting others. That's not a radical idea.

No, it just makes you feel like a martyr. In reality, it's utterly pointless outside.

NP here. Wearing a mask outside does not make me feel like a martyr! I barely notice it. You’re being so dramatic!

Anonymous wrote:One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

Don you have family that has Covid-19? I do. It’s a beast. They barely want to be alive right now, on week 7, a “mild” case. They have likely permanently lost some lung function at this point. Your need to make this a fight, using gaslighting language to belittle others is deplorably cruel.

Forgot to add to my post, our kids need to go back to school. Our priorities are completely backwards that stores are open and schools are not. All studies indicate elementary school kids are not transmitters of the virus and daycares in this area (mine included) have now been open for weeks with no issues with all of the precautions in place.

One thing that is for sure in this thread and others is that so many people live complete anxiety fear porn driven lives. I firmly blame social media for this. SARS 2002 wasnt like this. And before you come at me with the numbers we werent testing the volume of people in 2002 like we are COVID. Was SARS as bad as COVID, no? But 99.9% of COVID patients have mild symptoms. Shutting down our country for a year is insane and only major urban cities whose population is wealthy and typically can work from home while collecting a paycheck are fans of this lockdown.

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Anonymous wrote:There are two types of people:

1 - "I don't have to wear a mask any time I'm not at home because it's probably not going to protect me anyway"

2 - "We don't know everything about this virus, but we do know that masks prevent community spread, so I'll wear this mask when I'm not at home to protect myself and others"

It's not hard to care about other people.

And there it is. It really is that simple.

Only people who struggle with control issues categorize it as "that simple" to try and explain/order what they feel is an out of control situation. Nothing is that simple, especially not covid.

Lol. Do you have ODD?

No, but the "mask as soon as you leave home" most likely do.

We live in an apartment. It’s required by our building. How’s that cul-de-sac life?

Huh? So do I. Remove it when you exit the building, just like any other indoor, non-home space. Voila.

The hardcore defiance of the mayor’s order is a bit pathological.

DP. Guess you haven’t actually read the Mayor’s order.

Psyllium. Find some.

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Anonymous wrote:There are two types of people:

1 - "I don't have to wear a mask any time I'm not at home because it's probably not going to protect me anyway"

2 - "We don't know everything about this virus, but we do know that masks prevent community spread, so I'll wear this mask when I'm not at home to protect myself and others"

It's not hard to care about other people.

There you have it, people who only see it as black/white, do or don't do. Don't touch anything, sanitize everything, don't do anything, don't go anywhere, mask always even in your car. Or go out, hug everyone, party everywhere, never wear a mask, and lick doorknobs.

There's a lot of healthy, reasonable, rational, middle ground.

It's just about caring about other people. Wearing a mask is about protecting others. That's not a radical idea.

No, it just makes you feel like a martyr. In reality, it's utterly pointless outside.