Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 20:56     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
I'm a professor. Our college is saying it plans to be open, with residential students, offering in-person classes as long as the governors/health advisors agree. They are also telling us profs that it will NOT be normal even if in person, that we will likely have to teach on-line and that we should have our classes ready for closure at any time. So, they are assuming all will be fine, but preparing for that to change. It's just reality.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 20:04     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
So much of college learning takes place outside the classroom: office hours, leading clubs, cultural events. So I am okay with them being there with reduced in -person lectures.

I just don't trust that age person AT ALL to be conscientious about social distancing, consistently.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:57     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)


The first paragraph says classes will be smaller. That has a ton of ripple effects. If classrooms can’t even be 50% full due to the need for social distancing, there would need to be more sections of each class. This runs counter to the need for more time between classes so that cleaning can happen. I think these universities are painting a very rosy picture so students don’t jump ship. Any school that says they have these logistics even close to being worked out is lying.


Not necessarily. At my kid’s state school, the plan is to have the large lectures online and then the discussions/lab in person. That seems very viable.


Viable maybe but is it really much better? The discussion/lab sections usually meet once a week. There wouldn’t be classroom space to increase that. So you’re living on campus for maybe 5 hours of direct instruction a week. Then another 15 hours of streaming lectures.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:54     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)


The first paragraph says classes will be smaller. That has a ton of ripple effects. If classrooms can’t even be 50% full due to the need for social distancing, there would need to be more sections of each class. This runs counter to the need for more time between classes so that cleaning can happen. I think these universities are painting a very rosy picture so students don’t jump ship. Any school that says they have these logistics even close to being worked out is lying.


Not necessarily. At my kid’s state school, the plan is to have the large lectures online and then the discussions/lab in person. That seems very viable.


How large is “large”? Anything over 300? 100? 50? A lot of universities have classes that aren’t what one would consider large lectures but aren’t labs/seminars either. A student who enrolls in a 40 person class may very well be told that class has to move online because they can’t spread students out sufficiently. There aren’t enough of the large lecture halls to put all the 40 person classes in those. I agree that it’s a good solution but people on here sound like they will be posted at anything other than a totally normal experience.


Pissed, not posted
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:53     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)


The first paragraph says classes will be smaller. That has a ton of ripple effects. If classrooms can’t even be 50% full due to the need for social distancing, there would need to be more sections of each class. This runs counter to the need for more time between classes so that cleaning can happen. I think these universities are painting a very rosy picture so students don’t jump ship. Any school that says they have these logistics even close to being worked out is lying.


Not necessarily. At my kid’s state school, the plan is to have the large lectures online and then the discussions/lab in person. That seems very viable.


How large is “large”? Anything over 300? 100? 50? A lot of universities have classes that aren’t what one would consider large lectures but aren’t labs/seminars either. A student who enrolls in a 40 person class may very well be told that class has to move online because they can’t spread students out sufficiently. There aren’t enough of the large lecture halls to put all the 40 person classes in those. I agree that it’s a good solution but people on here sound like they will be posted at anything other than a totally normal experience.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:45     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)


The first paragraph says classes will be smaller. That has a ton of ripple effects. If classrooms can’t even be 50% full due to the need for social distancing, there would need to be more sections of each class. This runs counter to the need for more time between classes so that cleaning can happen. I think these universities are painting a very rosy picture so students don’t jump ship. Any school that says they have these logistics even close to being worked out is lying.


Not necessarily. At my kid’s state school, the plan is to have the large lectures online and then the discussions/lab in person. That seems very viable.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:41     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:

(I wonder if he reads this forum)




It's all up the the Governors.
Apparently they decide what businesses are open.
Welcome to the new USA, one far different from that envisioned by the founders.

Why anyone would give DCUM credit for anything is beyond me.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:40     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)


The first paragraph says classes will be smaller. That has a ton of ripple effects. If classrooms can’t even be 50% full due to the need for social distancing, there would need to be more sections of each class. This runs counter to the need for more time between classes so that cleaning can happen. I think these universities are painting a very rosy picture so students don’t jump ship. Any school that says they have these logistics even close to being worked out is lying.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 19:29     Subject: Re:Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
More from Spivey

https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/school-are-now-confirming-in-large-numbers-they-will-be-open/

(I wonder if he reads this forum)
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:54     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Per CNN just now a whole number of colleges announced today they will be open this fall


Hey Siri, what’s tomorrow? Decision / deposit day! Sign those contracts parents!

Lol. Dream on. Colleges are going to open this fall whether you like it or not. Game’s over.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:38     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Per CNN just now a whole number of colleges announced today they will be open this fall


Hey Siri, what’s tomorrow? Decision / deposit day! Sign those contracts parents!
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:38     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Per CNN just now a whole number of colleges announced today they will be open this fall

Pretty much every college I’ve seen that’s made an announcement is announcing IN PERSON. The only ones that have said online or most likely online are state schools in California.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:36     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.abc15.com/news/region-central-southern-az/tucson/university-of-arizona-planning-in-person-fall-classes

University of Arizona will hold classes online.


The headline says the exact opposite.

Yes; that’s what I meant — typing too fast, sorry!!! Classes at U of A (and ASU) are going to be in person.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:17     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.abc15.com/news/region-central-southern-az/tucson/university-of-arizona-planning-in-person-fall-classes

University of Arizona will hold classes online.


The headline says the exact opposite.


Do you really think that schools are going to tell people whether they will be online next year? NO ONE KNOWS. It is impossible to know.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2020 18:11     Subject: Colleges and Universities almost universally plan to be open in the fall
Anonymous wrote:https://www.abc15.com/news/region-central-southern-az/tucson/university-of-arizona-planning-in-person-fall-classes

University of Arizona will hold classes online.


The headline says the exact opposite.