Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:39     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.


Which streets are too crowded to walk on?


+1000

It's really not that crowded at all, or difficult to move yourself out of the way if someone's invading your space.

Even still, transmission of Covid19 outside, without any lingering air space, is very unlikely. It's clear there are a few people who haven't been outside since 1999 and are flipping out over nothing. All the walkers/runners/etc I see and have seen for YEARS on the same route, at approx the same time, are still out there and not flipping out. We still wave, nod, and even say "good morning" to each other. Why? Because we're not hyper anxious nor insane.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:39     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

jsteele wrote:Mayor Bowser just announced that NPS has agreed to close Beach Drive and roads in Anacostia Park and Fort Dupont Park to cars:




I think we know where the next coronavirus hot spot will be!
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:38     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.


Which streets are too crowded to walk on?


PP, instead of insisting that people should believe an anonymous poster on an Internet message board instead of their own lying eyes, GO OUTSIDE (when the bad weather has passed). You'll feel better.


You can just say you're not aware of any streets in the entire city that are too crowded to walk on, and that this whole "problem" is just being made up by people who hate cars.


PP, go outside and take a walk. Just right out the door and start walking. You'll feel better.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:37     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.


Which streets are too crowded to walk on?


PP, instead of insisting that people should believe an anonymous poster on an Internet message board instead of their own lying eyes, GO OUTSIDE (when the bad weather has passed). You'll feel better.


You can just say you're not aware of any streets in the entire city that are too crowded to walk on, and that this whole "problem" is just being made up by people who hate cars.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:34     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.


Which streets are too crowded to walk on?


PP, instead of insisting that people should believe an anonymous poster on an Internet message board instead of their own lying eyes, GO OUTSIDE (when the bad weather has passed). You'll feel better.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:31     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.


Which streets are too crowded to walk on?
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:23     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.


Yes, I've gone outside. That's how I know that other people are also outside. Good grief.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 10:09     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Has anyone here actually gone outside?

There is no one on the sidewalks. There is no one on the streets. You can hang out on the Mall without a mask because no one is there.

But, sure, let's all go exercise on some closed street and give coronavirus to each other.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 08:59     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???


You're entitled, because of your special rules. There is no evidence that Covid 19 is that easily spread outdoors - it is not like measles.

But by all means go for a walk between 10pm and 6am. You should find lots of space to ease your anxiety.


You are a militant cyclist aren't you?

We are talking about temporary measures for extraordinary times? You can't see facilitating families walking as good right now? Maybe that says more about who you are as a person. This just seems easy. The faster and more force you carry as an object, you leave the others wide berth. That means give the pedestrians a damn break, even if they are in the road for a bit. We can get back to the cyclist vs car argument when all of this is a memory. Until then, joggers and cyclists, take your headphones out and use some common courtesy. (Pedestrians should lose the headphones as well...)


Not a cyclist at all. Been a while since I actually rode a bike!

But it's clear the complainers are the people who haven't been outside in years, if not decades. And the risk from outdoor infection in a quick pass is slim to none. I feel like you're going to complain even when our extraordinary times are over, because the issue is clearly within you and your own strange annoyance.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 08:35     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???


Or we can try a much simpler solution, namely: giving people more space, whether they're walking, running, or biking. As you know, there is much less traffic these days. People in cars will be just fine if we give some road space to walkers/runners/bicyclists.


This actually does not solve anything. Cyclists and runners like dying on the hill of they are entitled to both. WHICH THEY ARE. I think we are just pleading for some common sense here. We don't need to ban all vehicular traffic. There is barely any as it is. I think that we can all use the sidewalks and streets to stay safe. I just think that to make things easier for ALL OF US and to remove as much uncertainty as possible, we can have pedestrians to to the 'right' side of the street on the sidewalk as much as possible. Have cyclists and joggers pass in the street giving pedestrians as much room as possible and everybody uses the street and meneuver space to accommodate those cases when we simply need more space. We can do this without falling on our pre Corona cyclist Vs Automobile tropes.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 08:13     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???


Or we can try a much simpler solution, namely: giving people more space, whether they're walking, running, or biking. As you know, there is much less traffic these days. People in cars will be just fine if we give some road space to walkers/runners/bicyclists.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 07:51     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???


You're entitled, because of your special rules. There is no evidence that Covid 19 is that easily spread outdoors - it is not like measles.

But by all means go for a walk between 10pm and 6am. You should find lots of space to ease your anxiety.


You are a militant cyclist aren't you?

We are talking about temporary measures for extraordinary times? You can't see facilitating families walking as good right now? Maybe that says more about who you are as a person. This just seems easy. The faster and more force you carry as an object, you leave the others wide berth. That means give the pedestrians a damn break, even if they are in the road for a bit. We can get back to the cyclist vs car argument when all of this is a memory. Until then, joggers and cyclists, take your headphones out and use some common courtesy. (Pedestrians should lose the headphones as well...)
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 07:37     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???


You're entitled, because of your special rules. There is no evidence that Covid 19 is that easily spread outdoors - it is not like measles.

But by all means go for a walk between 10pm and 6am. You should find lots of space to ease your anxiety.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 07:34     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about giving cyclists and joggers windows in the day? Before 7 am, after 6 pm? And the exception is cyclists commuting.


So you haven't gone for a walk in 12 years, and now you want to give the runners and cyclists rules? Unbelievable sense of entitlement much?



So, why can't cyclist and joggers be put in a window not to oppose pedestrians? There may be something here?

Cyclists and runners seem unwilling to give pedestrians a bit of a wide berth, so why not give them the whole road during a window. Everybody is happy that way. Who are you saying is entitled? The pedestrians, cyclists, or runners???
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2020 06:56     Subject: Re:Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

Anonymous wrote:There's probably 400,000 people in DC who drive.

How many people ride bikes? 300? 400? Let's be generous and and call it 1,000 people.

And they want to dictate policy for everyone else.

Maybe bikers are nothing more than a noisy, self-centered special interest group.


You think there are only 1000 people who ride bikes in DC?

“The percentage of D.C. residents who bike to work increased from 2.2 percent in 2010 to 4 percent in 2015, according to U.S. Census data from the most recent version of the American Community Survey. That equates to about 13,000 D.C. residents who currently bike to work and an average of about 1,200 new cyclists hitting the streets every year.”

That’s just the commuters. There are many more people who bike recreationally.