Google Janet Lansbury and gentle parenting techniques. Time outs don't work.

Anonymous wrote:If the neighbor doesn't want noise they can live in a single family house or in the country. The neighbor is the entitled one. Living in an apartment means dealing with noise.

100% agree!!! OP - keep your head up!!

If the neighbor doesn't want noise they can live in a single family house or in the country. The neighbor is the entitled one. Living in an apartment means dealing with noise.

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Anonymous wrote:OP please ignore the vicious harpies who always come out for a thread like this. You’re pregnant and exhausted and she sounds like a tough 4 yo. Do consider parenting classes, not because you’re a bad parent, but because some kids are just tougher than others. Hence ignoring tantrums to get her to stop, which is pretty ordinary parenting advice, isn’t working with your kid.

Taking her outside if she’s going to scream is an interesting idea and probably worth a try in the meantime.

From OP's report, this child wasn't an angel before she decided to have another baby. Just think about that. In what world does someone who is already dealing with a troublesome child in a small apartment with paper-thin walls and floor (and with neighbors that have already been bothered by the noise to the point that they've complained about it) choose to have another child and plan to continue living in the same apartment? Someone NOT rude and entitled, I mean? Answer: they don't.

Being "pregnant and exhausted" is OP's own choice. It's certainly not the neighbor's fault.

A world in which someone wants another kid and predicts that the child will get less difficult rather than more??A world in which siblings can share a bedroom? A world in which having 2 kids isn’t reserved for the homeowner class?

You’re a mean person. Might want to reflect on that.

FFS. If you can't deal with one child, you shouldn't have another. That you really really really want another and your colleague with the rich husband has three is irrelevant. When you have children, you have an obligation to care for them appropriately. It isn't just about what you want.

Going to hide my puppies now, Cruella.

I’m pretty sure it’s the same two people writing nasty things to OP. It’s amazing what folks get their axles twisted around.

Anonymous wrote:Good god, the entitlement of some people. I am FIRMLY in the “don’t have them if can’t afford them or effectively parent them” camp. What kind of person thinks that it’s okay to inflict this kind of discomfort on an innocent neighbor? MOVE!!

It’s not going make sense to you. But your tone really makes you the entitled one. You have no concept of what this person‘s life is like.

Dear OP - I'm so so sorry to read all these harmful comments. Pls disregard them. YOU'RE NOT A BAD MOM. YOU'RE NOT A BAD HUMAN BEING. Kids are tough, kids scream. If I'm honest, your neighbour should show some compassion. Your neighbour has to deal with some noise, but she doesn't have to deal with your kid directly. You're the one doing the difficult job, you're the one trying to calm down your kid and keep things manageable. Families with young kids live in apt buildings, it's normal all over the world. It's just a stupid bubble of entitled people in DC who think if they make slightly more money than a national average they're better and entitled to special treatment. DC real estate is extremely overpriced so I do feel for you. Just try to hang out there, but just for a peace of your mind, you may want to look at other units in your school district. You're going to have a baby soon, it's such a special time, you don't want your neighbor to ruin it. It might be better to change the apt just to get a new perspective. Where do you live? From your description it sounds somehow like Glover Park (old building; thin walls, good school). There are many places around Glover Park where you could move and still pay a reasonable price for a 2-bedroom unit.

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Anonymous wrote:Good god, the entitlement of some people. I am FIRMLY in the “don’t have them if can’t afford them or effectively parent them” camp. What kind of person thinks that it’s okay to inflict this kind of discomfort on an innocent neighbor? MOVE!!

Being able to afford an apartment next to a good school is easily able to afford them! Who are you people that want to stop others from having children? I'm a new poster and am squarely in the 'hang in there' camp for OP. A PP said it right - ignore these harpies.

Have you ever lived next to a family like this? I did, before I had kids, and I vowed to never do that to my neighbors, myself, or to the kids. Parent up! Either move or manage your child. And yes, I have children and yes, one of them is a very active boy!

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Anonymous wrote:OP please ignore the vicious harpies who always come out for a thread like this. You’re pregnant and exhausted and she sounds like a tough 4 yo. Do consider parenting classes, not because you’re a bad parent, but because some kids are just tougher than others. Hence ignoring tantrums to get her to stop, which is pretty ordinary parenting advice, isn’t working with your kid.

Taking her outside if she’s going to scream is an interesting idea and probably worth a try in the meantime.

From OP's report, this child wasn't an angel before she decided to have another baby. Just think about that. In what world does someone who is already dealing with a troublesome child in a small apartment with paper-thin walls and floor (and with neighbors that have already been bothered by the noise to the point that they've complained about it) choose to have another child and plan to continue living in the same apartment? Someone NOT rude and entitled, I mean? Answer: they don't.

Being "pregnant and exhausted" is OP's own choice. It's certainly not the neighbor's fault.

A world in which someone wants another kid and predicts that the child will get less difficult rather than more??A world in which siblings can share a bedroom? A world in which having 2 kids isn’t reserved for the homeowner class?

You’re a mean person. Might want to reflect on that.

FFS. If you can't deal with one child, you shouldn't have another. That you really really really want another and your colleague with the rich husband has three is irrelevant. When you have children, you have an obligation to care for them appropriately. It isn't just about what you want.

I doubt OP has any colleagues. She sounds like SAHM.

Anonymous wrote:Good god, the entitlement of some people. I am FIRMLY in the “don’t have them if can’t afford them or effectively parent them” camp. What kind of person thinks that it’s okay to inflict this kind of discomfort on an innocent neighbor? MOVE!!

Being able to afford an apartment next to a good school is easily able to afford them! Who are you people that want to stop others from having children? I'm a new poster and am squarely in the 'hang in there' camp for OP. A PP said it right - ignore these harpies.

Good god, the entitlement of some people. I am FIRMLY in the “don’t have them if can’t afford them or effectively parent them” camp. What kind of person thinks that it’s okay to inflict this kind of discomfort on an innocent neighbor? MOVE!!

OP, if it’s any consolation, 4 was our WORST year. Vicious. Dare I say psycho. It was really bad, and I was pregnant with #2. It got infinitely better once sibling arrived, and has gotten better and better with every passing year. Now it’s just loud because the two are having fun, but the tantrums are a distant memory (for the most part). It’s also a great age gap, IMO. Best of luck to you, and hang in there.

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Anonymous wrote:How does a difficult 4 year old equal “can’t care for child you have appropriately?” Anyway it’s too late now....baby is coming, so maybe offer something besides “you’re a bad mom who needs to buy a house.”

Unless the kid has SN, a child who is regularly SCREAMING at the top of her lungs during a time out is not being care for appropriately. That is self-evident.

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Anonymous wrote:How does a difficult 4 year old equal “can’t care for child you have appropriately?” Anyway it’s too late now....baby is coming, so maybe offer something besides “you’re a bad mom who needs to buy a house.”

Unless the kid has SN, a child who is regularly SCREAMING at the top of her lungs during a time out is not being care for appropriately. That is self-evident.

How does a difficult 4 year old equal “can’t care for child you have appropriately?” Anyway it’s too late now....baby is coming, so maybe offer something besides “you’re a bad mom who needs to buy a house.”