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Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

You are spreading misinformation.

There is a circle in the top left corner of your bus ticket violation video. It shows exactly when the yellow lights are activated in relation to the stop and the traffic. It then turns red when the bus activates its red lights and the stop arm on the bus. Therefore, it is very clearly visible to the MULTIPLE video reviewers and the recipient of the ticket whether the school bus operator turned on the yellow lights before turning on the red lights. And if the bus operator did not, then that video never results in a citation.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/2022_MontCo_School_Bus_Monitoring_System_Report.pdf

That’s not the law. Maryland law is that the yellow lights have to be activated 100 FEET before stopping. The Texas bus cameras do not measure distance. Just turning the yellow lights on doesn’t cut it.

The bus camera citations don’t comply with Maryland law and are a scam.

The video shows whether the bus operator complied with the law. I don’t know how to be clearer that that.

Really? Then why don’t you prove it. Where does the citation measure distance?
It doesn’t.
Just turning the light “on” is not a distance. 100 feet is a measure of distance. The camera doesn’t measure distance. MD law is not followed.
Got it?

You are wrong on the law that requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses.

A separate law requires school bus drivers to flip on their yellow lights at least 100 feet before flipping on their red lights. If you want to pursue school bus drivers who don't comply with that separate law, then go for it, I guess? Since there's already a shortage of school bus drivers, it seems like an odd priority, but people do have odd priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

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Sorry to resurrect this one more time but my husband and I have gotten two of these tickets in the last two months, and we had never received one before. Has anyone else gotten more of these lately? Are they ramping it up? Or just coincidence. And has anything come of the efforts to scrutinize this?

In both cases, as many others have stated, we were several lanes away on the opposite side of the road and drove by within a couple seconds of the stop sign going out. Slamming on the brakes could have caused an accident. We paid the first one, since it was the first time, but getting the second one right after it really peaked my suspicion and I found this thread.

The answers saying "it's simple, just don't pass a school bus" are frustrating - this is a very specific complaint in which stopping could have caused an accident, and the school bus was very far away. And $250 is a lot of money! And it's now $500 for us.

They have not ramped up the program. They are on all the buses and have been for a couple years now.

Try to stop for the yellow lights, and don't try to guess when the lights turn red.

Not judging. It's only by sheer luck I haven't gotten one. But I focus on the yellow lights. That provides more time to stop. It's better to stop or slow when you don't need to than to get a ticket (or worse hit a kid).

You “focus” on yellow lights 6 lanes away on buses coming from the opposite direction. Heaven help the cats around you that are are about to get slammed.

If you can't operate a motor vehicle while being aware of your surroundings - especially blinking lights - you should stop driving.

If you are so stupid that you can’t recognize when you are being scammed you should stay off the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

You are spreading misinformation.

There is a circle in the top left corner of your bus ticket violation video. It shows exactly when the yellow lights are activated in relation to the stop and the traffic. It then turns red when the bus activates its red lights and the stop arm on the bus. Therefore, it is very clearly visible to the MULTIPLE video reviewers and the recipient of the ticket whether the school bus operator turned on the yellow lights before turning on the red lights. And if the bus operator did not, then that video never results in a citation.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/2022_MontCo_School_Bus_Monitoring_System_Report.pdf

That’s not the law. Maryland law is that the yellow lights have to be activated 100 FEET before stopping. The Texas bus cameras do not measure distance. Just turning the yellow lights on doesn’t cut it.

The bus camera citations don’t comply with Maryland law and are a scam.

The video shows whether the bus operator complied with the law. I don’t know how to be clearer that that.

Really? Then why don’t you prove it. Where does the citation measure distance?
It doesn’t.
Just turning the light “on” is not a distance. 100 feet is a measure of distance. The camera doesn’t measure distance. MD law is not followed.
Got it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

You are spreading misinformation.

There is a circle in the top left corner of your bus ticket violation video. It shows exactly when the yellow lights are activated in relation to the stop and the traffic. It then turns red when the bus activates its red lights and the stop arm on the bus. Therefore, it is very clearly visible to the MULTIPLE video reviewers and the recipient of the ticket whether the school bus operator turned on the yellow lights before turning on the red lights. And if the bus operator did not, then that video never results in a citation.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/2022_MontCo_School_Bus_Monitoring_System_Report.pdf

That’s not the law. Maryland law is that the yellow lights have to be activated 100 FEET before stopping. The Texas bus cameras do not measure distance. Just turning the yellow lights on doesn’t cut it.

The bus camera citations don’t comply with Maryland law and are a scam.

The video shows whether the bus operator complied with the law. I don’t know how to be clearer that that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

You are spreading misinformation.

There is a circle in the top left corner of your bus ticket violation video. It shows exactly when the yellow lights are activated in relation to the stop and the traffic. It then turns red when the bus activates its red lights and the stop arm on the bus. Therefore, it is very clearly visible to the MULTIPLE video reviewers and the recipient of the ticket whether the school bus operator turned on the yellow lights before turning on the red lights. And if the bus operator did not, then that video never results in a citation.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/2022_MontCo_School_Bus_Monitoring_System_Report.pdf

That’s not the law. Maryland law is that the yellow lights have to be activated 100 FEET before stopping. The Texas bus cameras do not measure distance. Just turning the yellow lights on doesn’t cut it.

The bus camera citations don’t comply with Maryland law and are a scam.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

You are spreading misinformation.

There is a circle in the top left corner of your bus ticket violation video. It shows exactly when the yellow lights are activated in relation to the stop and the traffic. It then turns red when the bus activates its red lights and the stop arm on the bus. Therefore, it is very clearly visible to the MULTIPLE video reviewers and the recipient of the ticket whether the school bus operator turned on the yellow lights before turning on the red lights. And if the bus operator did not, then that video never results in a citation.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/visionzero/Resources/Files/2022_MontCo_School_Bus_Monitoring_System_Report.pdf

That’s not the law. Maryland law is that the yellow lights have to be activated 100 FEET before stopping. The Texas bus cameras do not measure distance. Just turning the yellow lights on doesn’t cut it.

The bus camera citations don’t comply with Maryland law and are a scam.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Clearly you don’t drive. The camera is running the entire time the bus is running. Yes, a truck can block a bus and a car next to the bus can later be videotaped.

What the camera never does is confirm that the bus complied with Maryland law in signaling its pending stop. The bus cameras don’t comply with Maryland law because they are from Texas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.

It's not a 6-lane road, traffic in rush hour is moving slowly, and if the tractor trailer is blocking the bus, then it's also blocking the bus camera.

However, you're right, that road is clearly unsafe, and the state should shut it down until they have fixed it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also how do you appeal? No option on the ticket, of course

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/howdoI/pay-schoolbus-ticket.html

But even better is avoiding a school bus citation in the first place by stopping for stopped school buses.

That are coming from the opposite direction on a six lane road that you can’t see through a tractor trailer.

Get a grip. If you could stop the company wouldn’t have cooked up this scam to make millions.

That's silly. A tractor trailer is not going to exactly match a bus "and" you to perfectly obstruct your line of vision for any significant distance.

You are supposed to be scanning the road, ahead of you most of all, but all around. We all know that buses are picking up kids in the morning and dropping them in the afternoon. We should all be on alert for them, and for the fact they stop often.

If you are driving watching 3 lanes over in the opposite direction through traffic you just hit the kid crossing in front of you. You clearly don’t drive in rush hour if you don’t know how a tractor trailer can block a bus.