Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:36     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:Question: If the whistleblower turns out to be a partisan, does that change things?


Yeah, it will mean that Trump violated another law!
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:31     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Question: If the whistleblower turns out to be a partisan, does that change things?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:29     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Watching this blow up in the Democrats face is going to be entertaining.

So is watching you Trump humpers sweat while your guy goes down, which he will. Trump apparently just agreed to release all of the whistleblower material by Friday (not that I trust him). It’s coming out one way or the other. And it has to be bad, or Pelosi would not have acted so quickly. Now Mitch appears to be folding; that will be the final blow. We (and you) always knew that the Republicans would abandon ship when Trump threatened their reelection chances. Thick as you Trumpsters are, even you recognize that strongarming a foreign power to interfere in our election on your behalf is really bad. Even better, Pence is totally wrapped up in this as well, so he’s going down, too. I’d love to be a fly on the wall in your house when Pelosi is declared our next President.


I look forward to the swearing-in of President Pence after Trump is gone.


Didn't you hear? He's also completely corrupt!! I mean, how can you even think he's acceptable??


I look forward to all of the liberal teeth gnashing when this fails also. It’s literally like they are throwing anything and everything at the wall to see what sticks with the public.
And none of it sticks because the president loves America and believes whole heartedly in American exceptionalism and the public loves him for it.

And. Democrats. Do. Not. Understand. This.


They have to. Everything is failing and they know what will be exposed if they don't succeed.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:28     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Has there been an actual vote? Otherwise, Pelosi has changed nothing
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:26     Subject: Re:Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

69 of Nixon's people were indicted over Watergate. 48 went to jail. Attorney General John Mitchell went to jail for two years.

Treason is so much worse than anything Nixon did.

Republicans are backed into a corner and will say or do anything.

Trump called Nancy Pelosi today and begged her not to impeach. There are tapes.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-pelosi-to-negotiate-amid-impeachment-probe-she-declined-2019-9

You have to admit this morning at the UN Trump looked like he had not slept well.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:17     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:People who should be concerned about now

Barr (for violating the Whsitleblower law)
McGuire (for violating the Whistleblower law)
Pompeo (for involving State in this mess)
Mulvaney (for involving OMB in this mess)
Mnuchin (for involving treasury in this mess)
Guiliani (for being the bagman of this mess)
Pence (for his complicity and chief negotiator)


This is a beautiful list!
So which Senator turns on Trump first?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:16     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

I am fairly confident that whatever evidence was turned over to the White House is being manipulated or destroyed now. I hope the Whistleblower has primary documentation to substantiate whatever they allege.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 23:16     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:This article from May seems more important today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/07/us-ambassador-ukraine-is-recalled-after-becoming-political-target/


Yes, the Trump camp smeared Marie Yovanovitch to get her removed as U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, so Rudy could run our Ukraine policy on behalf of the campaign.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:44     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

OH please. Get off your moral high horse. You and the rest of the Democrats weren't saying the same thing when Bill Clinton was lying under oath and committing all sorts of #metoo infractions.


Moral high horse? Pretty rich coming from the person who cheated on all of his wives, the last with a porn star while his wife was home with a baby; a man who openly admits sexual assault and has told thousands of documented lies.


+1 Republicans are bringing up actions from 25 years ago, because there's no way to defend their current mess of a POTUS. This. Is. Not. Normal.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:29     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:lol....what a nothing burger.

Guess what happens? NOTHING.

In case you aren't aware, it'll take a 2/3rd super majority in the Senate to actually do anything with an impeachment from the House....which means nothing will happen with the charade the Dems are putting on because they don't even control the Senate. It'll get thrown in the trash in less than 24 hours if it ever gets passed the House. This will be a spectacular backfire by the Dems during election season, because it is going to do nothing except rile up the GOP base and Dems will get 0 results out of it. And guess who'll get the blame when the economy and stock market tank due to political uncertainty? Trump and GOP will easily be able to blame the Democrats during election season for the economy tanking for starting all of the political turmoil that produce no tangible results. This is as big of a mistake for the DNC as sabotaging their own candidate Bernie back in 2016. They're also going to give Trump an order of magnitude more free air time with the press right before 2020. He'll get to campaign for $0 while the Dems will have to raise hundreds of millions with still 20 candidates to whittle down.


Wishing the above were true does not make it so. The "free air time" you're talking about will include hours and hours of Trump's dirty laundry and illegal actions being aired. And voters will take note because even the ones who aren't paying attention are getting tired of the Trump Circus.


This. This is not a normal presidency. We need to get back to respecting the rule of law.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:28     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if the GOP were smart, they would support removing Trump asap and get Nikki ready for 2020.

I don't think the GOP is smart, though.

If the senators dig in, it will destroy the party.


I still don't understand how intelligent, true conservatives could have stuck by a non-conservative Trump all these months - I have to believe that dirty money was involved.



Yup. And the Democrats will have a comparatively squeaky clean candidate while these hearings drag on for months. Surprising the GOP is still so supportive of Trump.

Look how many Republicans are tied up in this! Trump Pence Pompeo Barr McGuire Mulvaney Mnuchin Giuliani... and that’s just in this specific Ukraine incident and not the entire whistleblower’s complaint. If the whistleblower dam does indeed break and more people come out of the woodwork, can you even imagine how many people are gummed up in felonies? How many of the Trump kids are getting in trouble? How many elected GOP? How many GOP talking heads?
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:27     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:lol....what a nothing burger.

Guess what happens? NOTHING.

In case you aren't aware, it'll take a 2/3rd super majority in the Senate to actually do anything with an impeachment from the House....which means nothing will happen with the charade the Dems are putting on because they don't even control the Senate. It'll get thrown in the trash in less than 24 hours if it ever gets passed the House. This will be a spectacular backfire by the Dems during election season, because it is going to do nothing except rile up the GOP base and Dems will get 0 results out of it. And guess who'll get the blame when the economy and stock market tank due to political uncertainty? Trump and GOP will easily be able to blame the Democrats during election season for the economy tanking for starting all of the political turmoil that produce no tangible results. This is as big of a mistake for the DNC as sabotaging their own candidate Bernie back in 2016. They're also going to give Trump an order of magnitude more free air time with the press right before 2020. He'll get to campaign for $0 while the Dems will have to raise hundreds of millions with still 20 candidates to whittle down.


Please understand that we need to impeach this President FOR THE PRINCIPLE OF IT. Removal from office is separate. We need to get the Senators' votes on record, because some GOP Senators are in peril back home and this might cost them re-election. More importantly, we need this for the history books, as proof that we still have morals and ethics in this country.
We don't care that the base is riled up, because his base is not enough to win him a second term! However, 24/7 news coverage will ensure that those on the fence will vote for someone else, or stay home.





OH please. Get off your moral high horse. You and the rest of the Democrats weren't saying the same thing when Bill Clinton was lying under oath and committing all sorts of #metoo infractions.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:23     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:lol....what a nothing burger.

Guess what happens? NOTHING.

In case you aren't aware, it'll take a 2/3rd super majority in the Senate to actually do anything with an impeachment from the House....which means nothing will happen with the charade the Dems are putting on because they don't even control the Senate. It'll get thrown in the trash in less than 24 hours if it ever gets passed the House. This will be a spectacular backfire by the Dems during election season, because it is going to do nothing except rile up the GOP base and Dems will get 0 results out of it. And guess who'll get the blame when the economy and stock market tank due to political uncertainty? Trump and GOP will easily be able to blame the Democrats during election season for the economy tanking for starting all of the political turmoil that produce no tangible results. This is as big of a mistake for the DNC as sabotaging their own candidate Bernie back in 2016. They're also going to give Trump an order of magnitude more free air time with the press right before 2020. He'll get to campaign for $0 while the Dems will have to raise hundreds of millions with still 20 candidates to whittle down.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:22     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:lol....what a nothing burger.

Guess what happens? NOTHING.

In case you aren't aware, it'll take a 2/3rd super majority in the Senate to actually do anything with an impeachment from the House....which means nothing will happen with the charade the Dems are putting on because they don't even control the Senate. It'll get thrown in the trash in less than 24 hours if it ever gets passed the House. This will be a spectacular backfire by the Dems during election season, because it is going to do nothing except rile up the GOP base and Dems will get 0 results out of it. And guess who'll get the blame when the economy and stock market tank due to political uncertainty? Trump and GOP will easily be able to blame the Democrats during election season for the economy tanking for starting all of the political turmoil that produce no tangible results. This is as big of a mistake for the DNC as sabotaging their own candidate Bernie back in 2016. They're also going to give Trump an order of magnitude more free air time with the press right before 2020. He'll get to campaign for $0 while the Dems will have to raise hundreds of millions with still 20 candidates to whittle down.


Please understand that we need to impeach this President FOR THE PRINCIPLE OF IT. Removal from office is separate. We need to get the Senators' votes on record, because some GOP Senators are in peril back home and this might cost them re-election. More importantly, we need this for the history books, as proof that we still have morals and ethics in this country.
We don't care that the base is riled up, because his base is not enough to win him a second term! However, 24/7 news coverage will ensure that those on the fence will vote for someone else, or stay home.





^^^^ This.

The House can do its duty even if the Senate chooses to ignore facts and go along with lawlessness.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2019 22:22     Subject: Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

Anonymous wrote:lol....what a nothing burger.

Guess what happens? NOTHING.

In case you aren't aware, it'll take a 2/3rd super majority in the Senate to actually do anything with an impeachment from the House....which means nothing will happen with the charade the Dems are putting on because they don't even control the Senate. It'll get thrown in the trash in less than 24 hours if it ever gets passed the House. This will be a spectacular backfire by the Dems during election season, because it is going to do nothing except rile up the GOP base and Dems will get 0 results out of it. And guess who'll get the blame when the economy and stock market tank due to political uncertainty? Trump and GOP will easily be able to blame the Democrats during election season for the economy tanking for starting all of the political turmoil that produce no tangible results. This is as big of a mistake for the DNC as sabotaging their own candidate Bernie back in 2016. They're also going to give Trump an order of magnitude more free air time with the press right before 2020. He'll get to campaign for $0 while the Dems will have to raise hundreds of millions with still 20 candidates to whittle down.

It's a perfect cover-up for Trump for loss in 2020
Market is going to tank by then impeachment or not. At least he'll be able to blame Democrats for market crash, and losing reelection.